Documents of the Christian Church 2nd Ed 1963 Henery Bettenson
(quotes from Arius and his followers)
“If, said he, the Father begat the Son, he that was begotten had a beginning of existence; hence it is clear that there was a [a time] when the son was not.”
“The Son of God is from what is not and there was [a time] when he was not; saying also that the Son of God, in virtue of his free will, is capable of evil and good, and calling him a creature and a work.”
The Rise of Christianity 1985 W.H.C. Frend
“If the Father begat the son, there must be when he was not. He could not therefore be coeternal with the Father.”[said by Arius]
Man’s Religions 1968 John B. Noss
“Arius held that Christ, . . . was a created being; he was made like other creatures out of nothing, . . . The Son, he argued, had a beginning, while God was without beginning.”
The Church in History 1964 B. K. Kuiper
“The heathen believe in many gods. Arius thought that to believe that the Son is God as well as that the Father is God would mean that there are two Gods, and that therefore the Christians would be falling back into heathenism.”
Arius believed that Jesus Christ was born, that he had a beginning, he believed that Jesus Christ was the created Son, not the Creator, and for taking the Word of God literally he was excommunicated and anathematised. Starting with Nimrod in ancient Babylon until today man has stubbornly rebelled against the doctrine of one God.Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Exodus 34:14a For thou shalt worship no other god:
The trinity is idolatry, it puts Jesus Christ as a god before God.
Forgers of the Word 1983 Victor Paul Wierwille
“To say Jesus Christ is God the Son is idolatry. To say Jesus is the Son of God is truth.”
Forgers of the Word 1983 Victor Paul Wierwille
“To say Jesus Christ is God the Son is idolatry. To say Jesus is the Son of God is truth.”
Man’s Religions John B. Noss 1968
“The doctrine of the trinity he [Michael Servetus] felt to be a Catholic perversion and himself to be a good New Testament Christian in combating it. . . According to his conception, a trinity composed of three distinct persons in one God is a rational impossibility;”
Saying that Jesus Christ is not God does not degrade Jesus Christ it merely sets things in their proper order so we can know God and worship Him in spirit and truth.
We can no longer be lulled to sleep by the bizarre, complex, confusing, ritualistic, mysterious Babylonian traditions of trinitarian doctrines. We must come back to God’s Word and worship the one true God- the Holy Father of Jesus Christ.
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Preceding articles
People Seeking for God 2 Human interpretations
People Seeking for God 3 Laws and directions
People Seeking for God 4 Biblical terms
Christianity without the Trinity
Being Religious and Spiritual 5 Gnostic influences
Roman, Aztec and other rites still influencing us today
Application of old pagan concept of trinity
The imaginational war against Christmas
Entrance of a king to question our position #1 Coming in the Name of the Lord
Entrance of a king to question our position #2 Who do we want to see and to be
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- Blindness in the Christian world
- Vision blurred by cumulative burden of divisions
- Does there have to be a Holy Trinity Mystery
- Creator and Blogger God 7 A Blog of a Book 1 Believing the Blogger
- Genesis 1:26 God said “Let us make”
- Have no other gods besides Me
- Written and translated by different men over thousands of years
- A god who gave his people commandments and laws he knew they never could keep to it
- For those who believe Jesus is God
- For Getting to know Jesus
- Objects around the birth and death of Jesus
- The Son can do nothing of his own accord
- Nazarene Commentary Matthew 3:13-17 – Jesus Declared God’s Son at His Baptism
- Nazarene Commentary Matthew 4:5-7 – A Temptation to Test God
- God son king and his subjects
- Authority given to him To give eternal life
- Americans really thinking the Messiah Christ had an English name
- Focussing on the man Jesus and the relationship with God
- It happened on May 2 295
- 1691 years ago on June the 20th in 325
- A Triple God or simply a rather simple One God
- Problems correspondents have with the Trinity Doctrine
- 19° century London and Unitarians
- Afraid to see the man of the heavens opened
- Minimizing the power of God’s Force the Holy Spirit
- Jewish and Christian traditions of elders
- Renewed Catholic-Jewish relations still with a blemish
- Immanuel looking at Jewish and Christian visions
- Do you purpose that your mouth will not transgress
- Solstice, Saturnalia and Christmas-stress
- Responses to Radical Muslims and Radical Christians
- What is the truth asked also Pontius Pilate
- In Defense of the truth
- Forbidden Fruit in the Midst of the Garden 4
- More Mexicans start questioning Catholic doctrine and the concept of the Trinity
- President of the Unitarian Universalist Association of Congregations considers of undoing the Unitarian idea
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