Islamism Rises from Europe’s Secularism

Liberal indignation at the sight of a Muslim woman in a swimsuit says far more about the fragile state of western secularism than it does the role of Islam in European societies.

Also the covering of the body does not have to be a typical Muslim phenomena. English celebrity chef Nigella Lawson in in 2011 choose to wear the fashionable long swimsuit with a head covering, which became better known as ‘the burkini” (burqini).

 

Proponents of clothing bans hail themselves as defenders of European civilisation and liberators of Muslim women from their patriarchal menfolk. they consider themselves to have the right to decide for those women whom according to them cannot decide for themselves which religion they would love to adhere and how they want to be dressed.

A covered woman, by this logic, is robbed of her agency – weak, oppressed and in need of the full armour of the state.

But those not allowing those women to wear what they would love to wear and to show or not show their body parts in one way or another are now deprived of their liberty to dress how they like and of their freedom to be religious in the way they want to be religious.

*

To remember

 

  • France, Socialist government imposed a “secularism charter” = in every school, banning Christianity from educational system.
  • Municipalities changed enrollment form for schoolchildren eliminating words “father” and “mother”, = replacing them with “legal manager 1” and “legal manager 2”. => = George Orwell’s “Newspeak”.
  • “Day of Secularism” = celebrated every 9th of December.
  • October 2000, Nice, 105-member European Convention drafted Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union => only referred to the “cultural, religious and humanist inheritance of Europe”.

+

Preceding articles:

French showing to the whole world their fear and weaknesses

Does Banning Face Veils Help Us Fight Terrorism?

++

Additional reading

  1. Is Europe going to become a dictatorial bastion
  2. On French beach French police forces woman to undress in public
  3. Women in France running with naked bosom all right but with covered bosom penalised
  4. France and the Burkini
  5. Not limiting others but sharing peace with all

+++

Further reading

  1. The surprising Australian origin story of the ‘burkini’
  2. Burkini a boon for Muslim women
  3. France’s War on the Burqini
  4. French mayors dismiss suspended burqini ban
  5. The Burqini Ban
  6. My Burkini and I
  7. What does it mean to cover?
  8. Dear white people of France: being forced to undress wasn’t exactly the liberation I was longing for

+++

 

Let's condemn...

  • In France, the Socialist government imposed a “secularism charter” in every school, banning Christianity from the educational system. Municipalities have already changed the enrollment form for schoolchildren by eliminating the words “father” and “mother”, replacing them with “legal manager 1” and “legal manager 2”. It is George Orwell’s “Newspeak”.
  • After two major terror attacks in 2015, France, instead of promoting a cultural “jihad” based on Western values, responded to Islamic fundamentalism with a ridiculous “Day of Secularism” to be celebrated every 9th of December.
  • This narrow secularism has also prevented France from openly supporting Eastern Christians under Islamist oppression.
  • The empty 13th century Oude Kerk church in Amsterdam is now used for exhibitions and can be rented for gala dinners. In front of it there is “Sexyland”, offering “Live F*ck Shows”, a coffee shop for drugs and an “Erotic Supermarket” for dildos. For seven euros one can also visit…

View original post 121 more words

Advertisements

Does Banning Face Veils Help Us Fight Terrorism?

It is totally wrong to generalise and to say that

Muslims who have been living in Europe for decades refuse to be integrated and remain fairly isolated within their religious and ethnic communities.”

Many Muslims have a proper job and talk about the same general matters as other believers and go to the same super and hypermarkets like other civilians in that country.

It is also wrong to suppose women cannot make up their own mind and would not be able to choose their own religion and would not be able to decide themselves how they want to cloth themselves. Like atheist, Christian or Protestant women can choose themselves what they want to believe and to which religion or denomination they want to adhere, Muslim women also can be smart enough to decide themselves to which denomination in the Islamic religion they want to be apart of and in which way they want to follow the rules of that denomination.

The burkini, also known as a halal swimsuit, modestly covers all but the face, hands and feet, consisting of a top and a bottom. It resembles a wet suit with a head covering.

It has become popular with pious Muslim women, those women (like British cooking celebrity Nigella Lawson) who wear it to avoid a tan, and pious Jews have adopted a variant garment.

Lots of people do forget with a burkini the face is not covered and the clothing clearly shows the women contours and no weapons can be hidden under that clothing whilst under a male’s loose t-shirt a bomb-belt can be worn as well under the coats of people on the street weapons can be carried.

On television we saw a man saying the burkini had to be banned because weapons could be hidden, but he himself was wearing a loose T-shirt where much more could be hidden than by that Muslim woman. So normally he also should have been asked to undress.

When the French are afraid women would hide weapons under their burkini than they also should have going to forbid males and females to be dressed with covering clothes on the streets and in the shops in Summer time and Wintertime.
Can you imagine it: all having to run on European streets in a bikini or monokini whilst it is freezing cold?

The burkini poses no danger to public security. Unlike the burqa or niqab, it leaves the face uncovered. Relatively tight-fitting, it leaves no place to hide weapons.

If a woman wishes to dress modestly on the beach, that is her business, and not the state’s.

The Islamist threat to the West is very real, recognises Daniel Pipes the president of the Middle East Forum, who writes

Issues concerning Islam are arguably Europe’s No. 1 concern, ahead even of the European Union and the financial crisis. They need to be dealt with by confronting real problems, not by focusing on symbolic irrelevancies such as burkinis, halal shops and minarets. Burqas and niqabs must be banned (as the German government may soon do); freedom of speech about Islam and Muslims must be reconfirmed, Saudi and Iranian funding for religious purposes must be cut and a single legal code must apply to all.

The French better concentrate onto the real issue and should demand their state to take care of all citizens, whatever belief they may have, that they can live in a free country not having to fear Islamic or other fundamentalist terrorists and let Muslims and others wear what they wish to the beach.

+

Preceding article: French showing to the whole world their fear and weaknesses

++

Additional reading

  1. Is Europe going to become a dictatorial bastion
  2. On French beach French police forces woman to undress in public
  3. Women in France running with naked bosom all right but with covered bosom penalised
  4. France and the Burkini
  5. Not limiting others but sharing peace with all

+++

Further reading

  1. Burkini
  2. The Burkini
  3. From Bikini To Burkini, Or Why Lebanon’s Tripoli Is Awesome
  4. You may find this offensive 
  5. Burkini Ban: Not Everything has to be Legislated On, You Dimwits
  6. Just Say “Non” to Burkini Bathing Beauties?
  7. Post Burkini law, France needs to reform
  8. The Burkini: Muslim women and swimming
  9. Haiku, Dress Code
  10. Much Ado About Nothing: Thoughts on the ‘BurkiniGate’ (EN)
  11. Why I am against the Burkini Ban in France –
  12. Ban the Burqa, Allow the Burkini
  13. You are what you wear
  14. This Burkini on the beach business is making me feel uneasy. 
  15. Binding divides
  16. An end to the burkini hullabaloo?
  17. Stop. Trying. To. Strip. Me.
  18. Fashion and the re-inscription of Muslim identity – a female only space
  19. Deciding what to wear in another culture
  20. Why do you care what we wear?
  21. Ce Saint Que Je Ne Saurais Voir: Réflexions sur le «BurkiniGate» (FR)

+++

French showing to the whole world their fear and weakness

Terrorist beginnings

The previous year France and Belgium had to face very serious attacks to the integrity of their nation.

In the mid-1980s Belgium had already an experience of terrorist actions. Primarily engaged in bombings within Belgium’s borders the CCC or Cellules Communistes Combattantes (Communist Combatant Cells) attacked perceived enemies of communism, specifically NATO, US and other international businesses and the Federation of Belgian Enterprises. Today many may have forgotten those Cellules Communistes Combattantes their attacks which led to several injuries and only two deaths, whilst the Bende van Nijvel or Nivelles Gang, also known as the Brabant killers managed to kill 28 people and got 40 seriously injured between 1982 and 1985, but are also left in the past.

This present day also after the bombings at the airport and metro of Brussels, and the several terrorist attacks by Islamic terrorists all over the country, made the Belgium a little bit more alert They had tears for the victims (Christians, atheists, but also Muslims) but also very sensitive to continue to live on, not giving in to the Islamic terrorists, fearing everything about Muslims.

Taken by fear and covering clothes

The French seem to be taken so much by fear they start panicking as soon as they see a Muslim man or Muslim woman. Even worse, when they notice a Muslim woman in covering clothes or in a swimsuit they get in a terrible state and start using bad words and doing abusive degrading, humiliating actions. Do they really think such devout person, covering her body parts, would be a threat for their life?

Several majors of French cities and several politicians tried to limit the way women can chose their dress. On Thursday, the council of state, France’s highest administrative court, and judicial and advisory body, examined a request by the French Human Rights League to scrap the burkini bans which were imposed and caused already several disturbing  and very embarrassing terrible humiliating situations.

burkini-nice.jpg

Women in France facing fines and humiliation for wearing burkinis (Photo AFP/Getty)

Beachwear ban and infringement on basic freedom

The bans – made in the form of mayoral decrees – followed the Bastille Day attack in Nice and the murder of a priest in Normandy. Though they do not explicitly use the word burkini but instead ban

beachwear which ostentatiously displays religious affiliation”,

citing reasons such as the need to protect public order, hygiene or French laws on secularism, many women wearing too much covering clothes were reprimanded and those with a burkini were forced to take it off and to pay a fine.

At a hearing before the state council on Thursday, lawyers for the rights groups in the Villeneuve-Loubet case argued that the bans were feeding fear and infringe on basic freedom.

Lawyers argued that the short-term decrees are illegal and had good reason to declare such bans to be against human rights of liberty, in a state which had liberty in its ensing, having Liberty, Equality and Fraternity as their three core values.

Burkini ban

burqiniThe film-temple Cannes was the one to start all the fuss and gave the kick-off for banning the burkini because it

“could risk disrupting public order while France was the target of terrorist attacks”

by which you may wonder how such covering up of the body, still showing it is a woman in the dress, would disrupt public order. When the way of dress would create others to react negatively, the state should react on those who take on a racist attitude and not on the one who wears ordinary clothes. The second reason of imposing the restriction should ring strange bells in our ears: It is said those town imposed this law because burkinis ‘are’

“not respectful of [the] good morals and secularism

of France. Where we do have to question which those good morals are, when you see all that body exploitation, commercial nudity, fornication, a.o.. Against the secularisation we can understand, noticing that the state wants to exclude any from of religion, Judaism, real Christianity, though not objecting the pagan Roman Catholic Church because those Catholics do not do much with their religion and for those few priests and nuns who are in such minority, why should the state bother, because most people do not take them serious.

In France though most would oppose when a nun was forced to take off her habit on a beach, though lots of French people did find it right to have Muslim women to be forced to take off their (often even less covering) clothes. We even got to see where some police officers ‘helped’ to take off the clothes of a woman who was not quick enough according to their liking. It was really degrading to see such a humiliation in public in a so called Western civilised society.

Sexual objectification

In that French society suddenly fashion designers when designing nice clothes for Muslim women are called to help the people to set up against the governement and against public order.
France’s women’s rights minister, Laurence Rossignol, accused the designers of high-fashion burqinis and hajib headscarve of encouraging the “imprisonment of women’s bodies.” Would she also accuse the high fashion places of France to encourage the Caucasian men to consider women as a sex object and lookism target or making women attractive to be the treasure of man and as such imprison them in Western capitalist society? Why suddenly fashion for Muslim women becomes ‘Sexual objectification‘ when it is not for Caucasian non-religious and Catholic people?

The objectification of women, is an important idea in feminist theory and psychological theories derived from feminism and feminist shall have a new task in coming up for the rights of Muslim women, who are now clearly deprived of their own free choice to cloth them selves in a way they find appropriate according to their faith.

Fear for God searching and  finding people

Mainly males protesting of the covered ladies bodies should have us wonder if those men do not have an other problem. And if they seriously think persons wearing such clothes could impose a danger to the community, they should come to give a better explanation. Lots of them are afraid of islamisation of their country and think that when more people show their devoutness more French people would be put to shame and shall come to consider to change their secular life and perhaps consider to come to look for God again.  For many this is clearly also a problem. Many are very much afraid that people shall start wondering about their faith and about the Truth. Many are really fearing that several people may come to know God better and come to see how the Catholic Church mislead them so much.

Forcing women to go for protection

By forcing the Muslim women to cloth in a different way than they want to do for their faith, the French push them in a corner and shall make certain groups stronger, because they shall support those women and help them. In this way we have already the Algerian businessman and political activist Rachid Nekkaz who previously  founded the organisation “Touche pas à ma constitution” (English: “Don’t touch my constitution”, a play on the slogan of the NGO SOS Racisme: Touche pas à mon pote), which pledged to pay the fine of any women convicted of wearing the burqa in public, now also has created a fund to pay for any fines incurred by women wearing burkinis, and has already helped several women by paying their €38 fine.

But also radical preachers shall get to pull the women to their site, showing how pervert modern society has become, and how much the State does everything to get people away from God. The latest measures forbidding to wear any religious symbol on public adds to the proof of the willing secularisation of the State.

At the same time the governement in France does everything to create more hate between its population and in Allah or God believing people.

Nekkaz called the burqini ban

“symptomatic of the French government’s efforts to eliminate Islam, bit by bit, from the constitution”,

adding that the French government

“wishes to battle against the visibility of Islam in France”. {Meet the man paying off burqini fines in France}

But believers in God should see the Nation wants to go even a step further. Clearly this week they have taken the step to make it very clear that they are prepared to start the battle against the visibility of any God loving group of people, being it Jews, Christians or Muslims.

Public suppression and rejection of religion

La Sophia Lara, who is currently a student reading Latin and Italian at University in Scotland, whilst she is a linguist at heart, her interests and passions also expand to ‘philosophical’ contemplations (used in the slightest of terms), travelling and making YouTube videos on her channel, reacts rightly on her blog

A France which prides itself for liberté, égalité, fraternité, has unfortunately fallen short in recent times, with more social division and socialprejudice arising within the country, due to the public suppression and rejection of religion; the consequent of which has led to violent eruptions. It is also precisely through the social persecution of the wider islamic community in such acts which aim to strip them of their beliefs, that it seems that the French government are validating individuals’ fears, rather than attempting to diffuse them. I personally believe that the government has made very little effort to try to remedy the severance, and have instead trumped the terrorist acts  as a way to divert the attention away from their own failed model of harmony. {France’s banning of the ‘Burqini’ is the rejection of its founding principles}

Suppression of dissent

In France we may notice that because of the fear for terrorist attacks and because of the fear of the unknown (the lack of knowledge of what really Islam is and should be) suppression of dissent has come to demand its place in that nation of liberty and so called freedom.

The non believers in a god or the God form the group which is more powerful than those who believe in the Almighty Divine Creator of heaven and earth, has taken advantage of the present situation to directly censor, persecute and oppress those believers in the God of gods (Allah).

Lots of French do not want to give an ear to the other victims of the terrorist attacks and do not want to know more about Islam and how certain groups are misusing that religion its name to create war and anger. They do not want to take time to consider all facts and to engage with and constructively respond to or accommodate the other party’s arguments or viewpoint.

Sticker art arguing that dissent is necessary for democracy.

For many French people, Muslims are now considered a dissent perceived as a threat, against whom action must be taken, and should be repressed plus considered as “dissidents” to get rid off.

In several blogs we could find such reactions blaming ‘all Muslims’ for the agony which came over France.

Those who do not want to believe a woman can decide herself to wear a burkini deny the right of that woman to decide for herself

In France there are lots of people who do not seem to believe a Muslim woman can be strong enough to decide for herself to wear what she wants. There are even some people, like a Dutch blogger, who want to believe because a female wants to cover her body she is giving a sign that when it would not be covered she is allowed to be raped and should be found guilty of doing so. That is turning it all the way around (wrongly). By not allowing those women to dress as they want, the state gives the signal that it does matter how people are dressed and how female beings give a signal to men if they are ready to be taken as wife or be subject to be used as something else.

Any woman should have the own right to decide what she wants to wear without any man giving a connotation to what she wears.

So called nothing to do with racism but for safety reasons

When the burkini ban has nothing to do with racism and anti Islam religion do we not to question

How can a piece of clothing be a threat?
How can Burkini decrease the level of security?
How can they decide what women should wear to the Beach?
How is this even a topic of discussion?! {Burkini a threat…}

Is the Moroccon, Tetouan, Swedish Sarah not right in posing

they think by forcing us to dress a certain way they are helping us… They are the ones oppressing muslim women by taking away their rights do be who they want to be and dress how they want to dress. {Burkini a threat…}

Why should any person who does not want to walk naked have not the right to cover her body up? Be her or him a Jew, Christian, Muslim, atheist or a pagan believer, who may have the right to decide what she or he has to wear?

The Swedish blogger writes

I’m so tired of the “what should muslim women wear” discussion. If my sisters don’t want to be half naked while swiming, they shouldn’t be forced. If my sisters want to cover up, they should be able to. And if my sisters want to be free, let them be free.

Stop trying to set us free from a decision we freely made!!
Stop trying to label us.
You do you, and we are going to do us and just keep being awesome.🙂{Burkini a threat…}

Exclusive Madonna Holiday in France

Madonna, France has a message for you: You can’t swim with us. #youcantsitwithus – Exclusive Madonna Holiday in France

21st century witch hunt

Texan Cartoonist Clay Jones wrote

Western Europe is proving we’re not alone in the United States with our racism, xenophobia, and mass stupidity. I’m still recovering from the hate rally I attended last week.

Human Rights groups asked France’s highest court to strike down the ban, and they agreed. The court ruled that the ban

“seriously, and clearly illegally, breached the fundamental freedoms to come and go, the freedom of beliefs and individual freedom.”

I’ll add to that with “yeah.”

and drew a very good cartoon, which you can find on his site: Claytoonz: burkini.

Maryana Kovalchuk hits the nail on the dot to think of a new witch hunt. She writes

An affront to women. A sign of intolerance towards cultural diversity and integration. A step to prejudice, discrimination, segregation and an insult to everyone who worked hard against them. {Universal concern: not naked enough}

and ads the very confronting nice picture.

the-rapture-1999-shirin-neshat-1397865366_org

Caption from film ‘Rapture’, 1999, Shirin Neshat

We only can hope the French will find a solution to avoid further Islamic terrorist attacks and shall not try any more to take away the attention of the French public, from the real problem France does not seem to be able to manage.

*

Please continue  reading:

Does Banning Face Veils Help Us Fight Terrorism?

Islamism Rises from Europe’s Secularism

+

Preceding articles

A world with or without religion

Women their education and chances to become a parliamentary

++

Find also to read

  1. 2014 Religion
  2. Social media a destabilisation tool in the Middle East and Syrian conflict
  3. 2015 the year of ISIS
  4. Summary for the year 2015 #1 Threat and fear
  5. Wrong ideas about religious terrorism
  6. A world in denial
  7. Man’s own fault and the choice to flee from fear
  8. Being Charlie 11
  9. Tears for Belgium
  10. Mountains of information, disinformation and breaking away
  11. Funding of ISIS
  12. Paris attacks darkning the world
  13. Brussels-born Salah Abdeslam key suspect Paris terrorist attacks
  14. The Meaning of Paris
  15. Children of Men
  16. Before you blame All Muslims for the terrorist attack in Paris
  17. Humanity Quote for Pax Populi
  18. When will it stop
  19. French Muslims under attack
  20. Syrian but also Belgian connection to French attacks
  21. A sleeper cell of militants was said directing attackers sent back to France from Islamic State’s de-facto capital in Raqqa, Syria
  22. Massive police operation in northern Paris suburb of Saint-Denis
  23. Mediterranean bloodshed
  24. Nice attack, terror everywhere and coup attempt in Turkey
  25. France and the Burkini
  26. On French beach French police forces woman to undress in public
  27. Women in France running with naked bosom all right but with covered bosom penalised
  28. For those Christians who say they are the Victim
  29. A Secular Mindset
  30. Is Europe going to become a dictatorial bastion
  31. About burkinis and where burka’s are banned > Full burqa and niqab ban

++

Additional reading

  1. A Secular Mindset
  2. Social media, sympathy & shocks
  3. Blinded crying blue murder having being made afraid by a bugaboo
  4. For those Christians who say they are the Victim
  5. Signs of the Last Days
  6. God Watches
  7. Not limiting others but sharing peace with all
  8. A Jew and Muslim walking together side by side down USA city streets
  9. A darker and stranger place
  10. Il terrorismo è l’urlo di un bambino al buio
  11. Remain lovingly = No path for softies
  12. You Matter
  13. How to Find the Meaning of Life and Reach a State of Peace

+++

Further of interest

  1. Egalité and Fraternité are great, but we need to ask ourselves some very difficult questions about Liberté
  2. Pope on Charlie Hebdo: There are limits to freedom of expression when faith is insulted
  3. Terror Is A French Word
  4. Timeline of European terror attacks
  5. Some thoughts on the Paris attacks
  6. France Makes Major Shift Toward Fascism in Wake of Paris Terror Attacks
  7. The Brussels Attacks: A Paris Perspective
  8. Reaction from U.S.A. President Barack Obama
  9. Brussels, Europe’s jihadist breeding ground, now itself under attack
  10. Misunderstandings of Islam: Violence and Riots Break Out in Molenbeek
  11. A Culture Comes Together From Paris Attacks
  12. Terror attack in Nice!!!
  13. France Attack: More Than 84 Dead As Truck Filled With Bombs Crash Into Crowd.
  14. A Celebration ended with terror
  15. Nice truck attack leaves France and the world in shock
  16. Why we should try to understand violence
  17. Explaining Terrorism
  18. Hypocrisy Abounds: Free Speech as Cover for Islamophobia
  19. Nice Terror- “Keep Eiffel Tower Dark until ISIS conquers France”
  20. Updated: Muqtada al-Sadr wears military uniform: Some thoughts on the secularisation of Muqtada al-Sadr
  21. A2 Sociology: American devotion to religion is waning, according to new study
  22. A2 Secularisation
  23. A2 Beliefs: UK one of world’s least religious countries, survey finds
  24. A2: Faith, hope and secularity: Ireland on brink of change as church power wanes
  25. Studies in Church History 52: the Church and doubt
  26. Religion: A Diminishing Prospect?
  27. Secularisation 1
  28. Secularisation 2
  29. 5 Feature Ideas on Religion
  30. How God left the Netherlands – or is it the other way around?
  31. The War on Nothing
  32. Are All Lives Equal?
  33. Anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant rallies grow in Europe
  34. Morality, values and Developing right choices
  35. Why Gender Equality Is Not Just About Equal Rights
  36. Gender Equality and Equality
  37. A dying Western culture is the problem
  38. Islamism Rises from Europe’s Secularism
  39. Modest Swimwear: The Burkini
  40. East Essence: Shop Islamic Clothes For Your Whole Family!
  41. Ban The Burka
  42. Planned ‘Burqini Day’ irks French far-rights
  43. The Burkini Ban and the French Secularist Hypocrisy
  44. Third French burqini ban after Corsica clashes
  45. France’s banning of the ‘Burqini’ is the rejection of its founding principles.
  46. Burkini and French Secularism
  47. French Web Round-Up: 5 Things That Made Me Smarter This Week
  48. Thoughts on Burqini
  49. Breaking News: France requesting to Saudi Arabia’s ‘Morality Police’ for training their police force!
  50. Dear white people of France: being forced to undress wasn’t exactly the liberation I was longing for
  51. France’s War on the Burqini
  52. What women need is security
  53. What does it mean to cover?
  54. Islam, France, Burkini: A chit chat on FB
  55. My Burkini and I
  56. France’s highest court suspends burkini ban in test case
  57. The Burqini Ban
  58. Burkini Ban: How an Innocent Pun Became Another Way to Erase Muslim Women
  59. Anti-burkini decrees
  60. French mayors dismiss suspended burqini ban
  61. Amid Burkini Controversy, European Right-Wing Suggests Restricting Islamic Faith.
  62. Meet the man paying off burqini fines in France
  63. More prejudices than burkini ban
  64. The Big Deal About the Burkini
  65. Australian designed Burkini taking the world by storm.(Haute couture)
  66. French resorts defiant as top court suspends burkini ban | The Times of Israel
  67. French mayors uphold burkini ban to keep beaches ‘sexy, not terroristy’
  68. Burkini = Look for the very good cartoon
  69. an other cartoon: Battle of the Burkini
  70. The Thing with the Burkini…
  71. Women’s Freedom to Choose
  72. Planned ‘Burqini Day’ irks French far-rights
  73. Dear white people of France: being forced to undress wasn’t exactly the liberation I was longing for
  74. France’s highest court suspends burkini ban in test case
  75. France’s Top Administrative Court Overturns Burkini Ban
  76. A Good Court Thing
  77. Politicians still playing games after #BurkinBan was deemed ‘definitely illegal’
  78. Meet the man paying off burqini fines in France
  79. French mayors dismiss suspended burqini ban
  80. Dear France
  81. Who Wins the War on Terror? Love wins.
  82. Love. Above all.
    1. 99 Word Blog (#024) Banned Burkinis
    2. Current Events Corner 8/16/2016
    3. “France is at War with its own Citizens” – Yasser Louati on the Cannes “Burkini” Ban
    4. Uproar in France over ‘burkini ban’ at Cannes beaches
    5. #62 French police force Muslim woman to remove her Burkini on Nice beach (photos)
    6. Undress for safety
    7. Nudism/Naturism and burkini madness: Why not ban all clothes at the beach?
    8. Does Banning Face Veils Help Us Fight Terrorism?
    9. Why are the burqa and burkini being banned?
    10. Fashion vs the Government: The Burkini Debate
    11. The scandal of women’s bodies in secular Europe
    12. French burkini ban exposes the myth of neutral secularism
    13. Burkini and French Secularism
    14. Ban of burkini: theresult ofmalechauvinism or secularism
    15. France’s Burkini Ban: Identity politics go to the beach
    16. Forcing a Muslim Woman To Undress is Not Fighting Oppression. That IS Oppression!
    17. Banning The Burqa And Burkini Is Not The Correct Liberal Response To Conservative Islam
    18. The Hypocrisy of the Burkini Ban
    19. A Burqini is not Equivalent to a Burqa
    20. Corsican town becomes third in France to ban the burkini after #Islamics riot
    21. France’s Burkini BigotryBurkinis in the land of Liberté, égalité, fraternité
    22. To Burkini Or Not To Burkini: The Ages Of Men Deciding What Women Should Wear
    23. French Burkini Bans Face Legal Challenge as Tension Mounts
    24. France has for its name, the contrary of Liberty and Fraternity practice.
    25. A cover story
    26. Does France have a problem with racism?
    27. Everyone everywhere wants to tell women what to wear
    28. The Day The News Made My Blood Boil
    29. Beachwear bull
    30. Women protest French burkini ban outside French Embassy in London
    31. Show us your bits..
    32. It’s Always the Cover Up
    33. Thoughts of the Day: Burkini Ban
    34. Doing something for something’s sake is a dangerous strategy
    35. Burkini Ban : French Farce
    36. Burkini beach
    37. Facebook 45 – Suorkini
    38. The burqa-One mermaid’s opinion
    39. burkinis or bikinis?
    40. Burkini vs Bikini
    41. The Burkini
    42. Burquini – How It Happened
    43. Burkini Ban: Nice
    44. Cannes Ban
    45. Why the Burkini ban poses a threat to Muslims and Non-Muslims alike
    46. #Burkiniban – the problem is veiled ideology
    47. 24 August 2016 – All Lives Matter (or Overly Clad Women)
    48. Why the French burkini ban is damaging feminism
    49. Dear French PM, The Burkini Ban Is Abhorrent
    50. Burkini being a threat
    51. The Burkini ban
    52. Liberty, Equality, Bigotry?
    53. From Bloomers to Burkinis: The Same Old Story? by Sarah Ansari
    54. Modern feminism makes no sense at all
    55. Jean-Luc Mélenchon on the Burkini : “C’est une provocation”.
    56. And the Debate about Burkini Ban continues #burkiniban
    57. Can’t we just put all the cards on the table?
    58. The folly of the #Burkiniban
    59. Bitches, Puhleeeeze….
    60. Ban the Burkini.
    61. The Burkini Ban
    62. Everything under the sun
    63. Very simple solution RE: Olympics and Burkini
    64. Next time I go to swim I might wear a good burkini
    65. Saudi Arabia Bans Stripy Fisherman Shirts and Berets
    66. Another Attack on Western Civilization from Muslim Women
    67. The Burkini Ban Is Pointless And Racist
    68. The Burkini Ban is good. Not to let your Country turn into Saudi Arabia – without Oil – in a couple of Decades, we must defend it. The right that our countries remain western.
    69. So! (en) | Islamic veil across Europe
    70. Pope urged to wear swimming trunks
    71. Where’s the Outrage Over Nun Beachwear? – The Daily Beast
    72. the decomposition of logic and democratic values
    73. Freedom of choice. It’s not so simple.
    74. Europe has been awash with racial tension this summer
    75. France’s ‘burkini ban’, one step too far?
    76. In hiding
    77. #BurkiniBan
    78. France has ‘misunderstood’ burkini, Australian designer says
    79. “Burkini” Ban Accomplishes Nothing Positive
    80. The Hijab and MeIslamophobia or nah?Islam and the downfall of European culture
    81. The Islamisation of my Country – 1
    82. So let me get this straight…
    83. At what point does a ban become a chance to publicly humiliate?
    84. New Feminism – via Unapologetics
    85. Ban the Burqa, Allow the Burkini :: Middle East Forum
    86. If you ever had any doubt that Bill O’Reilly of FOX News wasn’t actually a Muslim-sympathizing liberal, this will remove it
    87. Quebec opposition MNAs reopen divisive debate over religious attire with call for ban on burkinis
    88. Salafist fuckin’ la revanche
    89. The best tweets showing the absurdity of the #BurkiniBan on French beaches
    90. Australian burkini designer profits from French ban
    91. Burkini, Bikini. Potato, potarto.
    92. New Feminism
    93. “Burkini”ban in Quebec: Samer Majzoub interview on CJAD by Aaron Rand.
    94. Why an Italian atheist should thank France for the burkini affair
    95. Kini Miney Mot
    96. More French towns spread ban on the burkini
    97. How Western is the Bikini?
    98. Twitter 48 – Burkini
    99. Twitter 49 – Hollande
    100. Twitter 50 – Tormentone
    101. Twitter 51 – Maledette femmine disinvolte
    102. Costume Drama
    103. Patrick Weil : « Qu’on laisse en paix les femmes voilées » | L’Opinion
    104. Port du burkini: un débat futile, selon Trudeau
    105. Parlons… du “burkini”
    106. Quand le maillot faisait polémique
    107. Quasi quasi mi metto un burkini
    108. Le burkini, c’est sexy
    109. Message de Coluche pas sage : “Le burkini sur la plage – Y’a quelqu’un qui pourrait expliquer aux Musulmans dits modérés du Sud que Carnaval, ça se fête une seule fois dans l’année civile en France, le Mardi Gras ? Sinon j’m’ramène une plume au Q sur la plage et j’fais carnaval tous les jours comme eux, moi aussi !” !
    110. Das Burka-Getümmel
    111. Femminismo, Burkini e dichiarazioni delle donne CL – Alle radici del sessismo, o della cazzata mediatica del mese di agosto 2016
    112. Filosofia dell’anima e femminismo – Burkini
    113. La discussione sul burkini in spiaggia è una stronzata apocalittica.
    114. Io, donna ebrea, sto dalla parte del burkini. A una condizione
    115. Di burkini e di diritti
    116. Vamos à la playa
    117. Κάννες: 10 μουσουλμάνες μπήκαν με μπουρκίνι στη θάλασσα, παρά την απαγόρευση
    118. Γιατί οι Κάννες απαγόρευσαν το μαγιό-burka;
  83. Fatwa 131471, Burkinis und die Welt

+++

a Place to discuss religious matters and Christadelphianism

“The proportion of the population who identify as having no religion – referred to as ‘nones’ – reached 48.5% in 2014, almost double the figure of 25% in the 2011 census. Those who define themselves as Christian – Anglicans, Catholics and other denominations – made up 43.8% of the population.” {People of no religion outnumber Christians in England and Wales – study}

wrote the Guardian in May 2016.

No only is it escalating on the Western Islands of Europe, it is a significant phenomenon all over the capitalist European continent. Even the growing Muslim population may not yet outweigh the atheist population in Europe.

People who were brought up with some religion now saying they have no religion at all. They dare to come out for it though in countries like Belgium lots of them though not believing still want to have a participation of the pagan/Christian feasts and celebrate ‘first communion’, ‘second communion’, Easter, Halloween, Christmas and some even other religious connected celebrations.

Religiosity is something where many today only want to talk about in the shade are in the darkness of the night. It is not a subject for a common open discussion in full day light.

The Belgian Christadelphians their electronic mail box though is often full of letters, people having questions about the same things. Them not reacting on our postings on our article platforms, makes that we, each time have to reply them personally and manually, which is a time consuming situation.

For those people who have no faith in God or who our doubting about religion we started a Forum, where all are welcome to discuss matters around religion, faith, how to make the best out of life, how to react on present situations, etc.

We do hope many may find the forum to make use of it. To get it going you are invited to contribute to it also and to bring subjects in the picture.

You may find the Forum on the Message Board Yuku, from a server in the United States of America under the name: Christadelphian

 

Christadelphian Forum (started August 2016)

Christadelphian Forum (started August 2016)

Please do find the following opening articles

  1. Welcome to Christadelphian
  2. Places of interest to get more knowledge about God
  3. Places of interest to get more knowledge about God
  4. Christadelphian a Christian
  5. A god, The God and gods
  6. How do you look at religion
  7. What or which god are you looking at and going for and who or what do you want to worship
  8. Christianity and Religiosity in Europe

+++

Religious matters

For ages people have looked in religion for answers for those things they could not understand, later they started searching more in the subject of science they thought could handle, but later in years also came to see that their they often worked with a wet finger and had it totally wrong.

Diagram of a Religious experience

Diagram of a Religious experience (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Still today their are people who swear by religion and others who swear by their own mind or by the minds of scientists.

Who shall tell?

In any case for believers there is a book of books that tells a lot of mankind, the past but also the future. It is the knowledge of histories and prophesies in that book, the Bible, that we can have not such a bad figure of what may come up to us. That Book of books proofed that the many words written in it became and where a truth, so why not for those things which still have to happen?

*

A long time professional in Information Technology who has been in the business since the late 1970’s when he worked on IBM mainframes, saw a signboard of a Christadelphian Church:

“Seminar: Brexit and Bible Prophecy”.

which started him thinking about religion again.

He looks at the way how people sought to expound the things they came to witness around them and in nature.

We remember from his words:

  • religion developing as a means of understanding the world
  • details didn’t matter too much to people
  • original idea of evil spirit embedded in a mythos or body of myths
  • whole structure of myths + stories got inflated into a cosmology & a rationale for the way things were => as if that was the way things were, + to some extent = correct.
  • scientific revolution => most societies on Earth recognise earthquakes + landslides not caused by malevolent supernatural beings > by forces of nature <=== taught to kids ==> learn to distinguish truth + fact
  • vast majority of religious officials would have really believe the religious corpus
  • cultures coming into contact => mismatch in religious beliefs => religious wars, crusades & jihads
  • religion = subject in schools, like maths or geography => dissociated from feelings + belief => uneasy when people believe deeply in religion
  • horrified by radicals + extreme cults
  • Science = explanation of the world, observation based ===>> Maybe our descendants may look on science as we look on religion, as necessary, but ultimately wrong headed view of life.

+

Preceding pages

The mythical conflict of science and Scripture (1)

Philosophy hand in hand with spirituality

Science, scepticism, doubts and beliefs

Are Science and the Bible Compatible?

Science and God’s existence

How to falsify a religion using scientific or historical evidence

Being Religious and Spiritual 1 Immateriality and Spiritual experience

Being Religious and Spiritual 3 Philosophers, Avicennism and the spiritual

Science, belief, denial and visibility 2

Bible containing scientific information

Science and the Bible—Do They Really Contradict Each Other?

The mythical conflict of science and Scripture (1)

The mythical conflict of science and Scripture (2)

Approachers of ideas around gods, philosophers and theologians

Are religious and secular ethicists climbing the same mountain

Is faith rational?

Finding God amid all the religious externals

Do You Expect God’s Answer

People Seeking for God 1 Looking for answers

People Seeking for God 3 Laws and directions

Luther on Being a Theologian: Oratio, Meditatio and Tentatio

Framework and vehicle for Christian Scholasticism and loss of confidence

Bill Maher proves atheism does not guarantee rational thinking

An anarchistic reading of the Bible—(1) Approaching the Bible

 

++

Additional reading

  1. Words in the world
  2. A Word and helping sites to give answers
  3. Looking for Answers
  4. Are you looking for answers and Are you looking for God
  5. About a human being or not and life
  6. The I Am to explore
  7. Gone astray, away from God
  8. Faith because of the questions
  9. When you don’t know what to do and hate yourself
  10. Does God answer prayer?
  11. The truth is very plain to see and God can be clearly seen
  12. God’s never-ending stream of much-needed mercies
  13. Trusting, Faith, calling and Ascribing to Jehovah #3 Voice of God #6 Words to feed and communicate
  14. Fragments from the Book of Job #7 Epilogue
  15. A Story of the Soldier and a Spider
  16. Leaving behind the lives we have touched.
  17. Solitude

+++

Further reading

  1. the primitive as reaction, pt. 2
  2. Cara Wall Scheffler: What anthropology can tell us about the origins of religious behaviour
  3. Belief in moralistic gods makes people generous—towards coreligionists
  4. “Judeo-christian values” — already tried that
  5. Formula for atheism is criticism without abstraction
  6. Religiosity: Saving Jesus
  7. Fundamentalism
  8. Impact of Globalization on the Socio-Religious Values of the Igbo People
  9. England and Wales are now predominantly nonreligious
  10. Millennials & Though less religious than older Americans, they are just as spiritual #PewResearch #Organixbook
  11. Religiosity & Americans Skeptical Of God But Think Heaven Is Real, Somehow
  12. Tennessee legislature repeals religious defense for parents who hurt their children by withholding medical care
  13. The Pridefulness In Asking WWJD
  14. Open thread: Susan Jacoby talks about people who go through religious conversion
  15. Religious countries are more unhappy
  16. Unbelief hurts
  17. Debunking Myths in Private Practice
  18. There never was a norse pantheon
  19. The Vanir Sail to Asgard, Heid comes to life and Njord and Frey take the power as “hostages”
  20. Greek Mythology: Typhoeus (Typhon) – Gaia’s last hope
  21. Halal Has No Links To “Terrorism”
  22. Hypatia says….
  23. Wide Asleep
  24. Young immigrants to Canada passionate about spirituality: Todd
  25. The God of Our Misunderstanding
  26. Systems stink
  27. Why I don’t pay “tithe” anymore
  28. Disengaged (released, freed)
  29. An Intro to Me – An Invitation to You
  30. Muslim refugees in Germany threaten ‘impure’ Christians
  31. Muslims sue Town That Refused Permission for a Mosque
  32. I no longer identify as a Christian
  33. Another Example Of Why Beliefs Matter
  34. “So don’t be intimidated by all this bully talk.” ~Jesus
  35. Relating With Your Enemies (4)
  36. Humanity Overtaking Insanity
  37. Where Have All the Good Times Gone?
  38. Wings Of The Morning

+++

Me on the net

English: Christadelphian Meeting Room, Napton ... English: Christadelphian Meeting Room, Napton This Christadelphian chapel stands on the corner of Howcombe Lane in Napton. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Seen on the signboard of a Christadelphian Church : “Seminar: Brexit and Bible Prophecy”. What?? Anyway, that started me thinking about religion again.

In the days that religion was developing as a means of understanding the world, when natural occurrences like storms and earthquakes were hypothesised to be caused by supernatural agencies, such as spirits and gods, the details didn’t matter too much to people.

English: Cains Folly Landslide (2) Very active... English: Cains Folly Landslide (2) Very active landslide, Greensand sitting on Lias. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

If your neighbour believed an evil spirit caused a landslide, it didn’t matter too much if he thought that the spirit was male, while you categorised it as female, and your other neighbour didn’t assign the spirit a gender at all.

Eventually problems arose with this approach. When Johnny arrived home…

View original post 1,113 more words