Echtscheiding en selectief Bijbelgebruik

Gelovigen vinden vrijwel allemaal dat de Schrift gezag heeft van kaf tot kaft maar bij tegenstrijdigheden kiezen zij wat hun het beste past. We gebruiken en lezen de Bijbelteksten die ons dogma steunen en andere teksten laten we maar liggen. Het is een soort struisvogelpolitiek. Wat we negeren, lijkt op een gegeven moment niet meer in de Bijbel te staan. We lezen niet alleen zelf selectief, ook preken en Bijbelstudies zijn selectief.

De Bijbelteksten die tegen het dogma ingaan, blijven vaak onbesproken.

A Happy Divorce

A Happy Divorce (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Een sprekend voorbeeld van selectief Bijbelgebruik zijn teksten met betrekking tot echtscheiding. Zelfs mensen die vinden dat het OT niet meer geldt, citeren toch de tekst uit Maleachi 2 vers 16 waarin staat dat God de echtscheiding haat. Echter, de geschiedenis in Ezra 10 wordt nooit aangehaald. Veel christenen zullen daarom die geschiedenis niet eens kennen. In Ezra 10 wordt in opdracht van God overgegaan tot 157 echtscheidingen. 157 Huwelijken worden hier op aanwijzen van de profeet Ezra, die handelt in opdracht van God, verbroken. Zo wordt met betrekking tot dit onderwerp Maleachi aangehaald en Ezra nooit. Maleachi en Ezra zijn beiden oudtestamentisch, maar Maleachi steunt het dogma, Ezra niet.

Uit: Vrij van de Wet? Een dogma onder vuur. Drs. E.Noordermeer

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People Seeking for God 2 Human interpretations

Books of many interpretations

christadelphian church kedron brook (1)

christadelphian church kedron brook (1) (Photo credit: bertknot)

People often wonder when they look at persons who read the Bible or discuss the Bible how it comes there are so many interpretations. In Science, scepticism, doubts and beliefs a reader rightly remarks that in certain faith groups a child/young adult may believe that the God of the Bible is real & no further examination of this conclusion is necessary, which could bring in the danger that there will be no-critical thinking any more. The person reacting thinks this leads many Christadelphians to actively seek sources confirming their beliefs and actively avoiding sources that challenge these beliefs – pure confirmation bias. For that reason the Christadelphians ask their members always to search each saying and not to restrict themselves to our own literature, but to read the Bible everyday plus to read also other writings on the different Biblical subjects from all sorts of denominations. In our community we do not want denominational restrictions and prefer to have individual freedom. For others this may look strange and make it that they do not understand that there may be several different opinions over certain matters in the different Christadelphian groups. They also accuse us of not being in union, but than they do not see that we are in union with Christ and that there is also the union in the brotherhood because we accept each-other as brothers and sisters in Christ having the same faith in Christ and having the same hope for the Kingdom of God.

In case there are people in our community who dare not to take up writings from others, or are afraid to listen or look at the new visual and audible media (radio, television, computer) we think they could feel like that because they could be not strong enough in their faith. Somebody who is build firmly in his believes, does not have to fear, when he sincerely surges for the truth and always considers the Will of God in his or her actions.

Origin of different interpretations

Holy Trinity

Holy Trinity church (Photo credit: stevecadman)

The difficulty for humankind today is that we do have the consequences of the adversary by the first human beings. In the Garden of Eden God has given humankind the liberty to decide everything themselves and to find out everything themselves. So we also do have to find our own way. We shall not have to face a dictator of an “omniscient God” who did “ensure that the Scriptures were clear enough to leave no room for interpretation”. In case people would just take God his Words like they are written black on white in the Scriptures there would be no problem and everybody would think the same. But in the past there have been workers against God (the adversaries or satan) who started to twist the words of the Supreme Being and who tried to bring in false teachings and false gods. As such the Trinity also became part of Christendom and created much confusion. One false teaching brought in a passage where again a solution had to be found and some dogma had to be created.

As a Good Father the Elohim Jehovah, the God of gods gave the people living on this earth His advice. Like we as parents can give advice to our children they all may interpret our sayings differently or take liberties with our thoughts. In the same way the creatures of God take the same liberties and some may twist the words their heavenly Father said. This twisting makes them to react differently on one or the other saying. This makes that today we can find many denominations, many churches with even in those churches several interpretations of one passage in the Bible.

Freedom to find out yourself

As God has given freedom to man at the beginning of time, to allow them to rule the world and to find out things on their own, we now have to bear the consequences and live with the possibility of different interpretations. But when people would be prepared just to take the Words of God for what they say, black on white, and would listen to their inner voice, God will be prepared to guide them and to give them inner feelings and insight so that they really shall find the Truth. But it is that preparedness to listen to the heart, which shall make it in many cases difficult, because most people do want to keep onto traditions and want to belong with the majority. They shall have to understand that perhaps the lovers of God do not belong to the majority of the world and that it is that what Jesus is about talking of the small gate to enter the Kingdom of God.

Ability to find God and Truth

To be able to find the God of gods and to find the Truth, people shall have to be willing to open their mind and to give their full attention to the Word of God as it is notated in the Book of books, the Bible.

As the critic on our writings remarks we can see it happening all the time that even two Bible-believing people can have opposing views on a certain passage of Scripture. Both claim to have solid supporting evidence in terms of context, cross-references and consistency. Both make what they think are reasonable arguments for their interpretations. So how can we determine which view is right? And does it matter?

When we do hear or are confronted with different views we should now that it can be that both views are partly right and partly wrong. With the exception of clear-cut fundamental Bible teaching — sometimes called “first principles” — no one should expect to find the full, complete, all-aspects-covered answer. We are all human beings which do not have the possibility to be perfect in everything. We all have our own deficiencies and fallacies. We also do have to face the things which are know but also those which are unknown. Even Christ had to tell his disciples he could not give all answers, because it is only given to God to know everything. Christ even did not know when he would be returning to the earth. He will certainly be involved in that important event where he shall have to come to judge the living and the dead, but even there he could not say when the end-times would take place.

In case Jesus did not know such important things concerning himself, how would we know such things?

A Book of books for discovery

Scripture is so richly significant and interwoven that discovery of another aspect or realization of another line of inquiry is just a matter of time. Several times in the 20th century alone, discoveries of ancient texts — in fact, whole libraries of ancient texts — have thrown new light on Bible passages. Ongoing archaeological investigations continue to help us understand God’s inspired Record better.

Brother George Booker looks into the matter why we even can not be 100% certain of first principles. In Which View is Right? he looks at our first principles which are expressed in man’s imperfect wording and warns us that there is always the possibility of simple misunderstanding of what, precisely, those words mean.

As serious Bible students we should have always an open mind and look at all possibilities. We should be prepared to continually  grow spiritually as disciples of Christ. Everyday our thought should be by the Most High and always we should continually be seeking to increase in knowledge and understanding. God’s Truth and Biblical Truth invites… indeed, it welcomes… investigation. So when encountering a different view, we should seize the opportunity at least to understand the evidence provided. We can always learn something, and if we’re wise, we may need to adjust our own views accordingly.

So what has all this to do with Bible study? Simple. There are many differing interpretations of Scripture. Which view is right? The measuring stick for soundness and rightness must be God’s Word. It’s that simple.

Of course, many other views (with which we may disagree) cite Bible verses as evidence. Thus it becomes a matter of determining:

  • The relevance of the cited passage: Does it contain the same or similar words and ideas?
  • Its validity: Does it really support the point being argued?
  • Its clarity: Is the reference self-explanatory, or does it, too, need interpretation?
  • Its consistency: Is the interpretation in harmony with undisputed fundamentals of Bible teaching?

For example, if an opinion is inconsistent with or contradicts well-known Bible facts and doctrine, then it must be modified accordingly, or abandoned. So just because a view is argued by citing dozens of verses does not, in itself, make it Biblically sound. What counts is clear, relevant evidence, logically arrived at. {Which View is Right?}

Being right or wrong not so evident

It is not up to decide this guy or that one is right in everything. Probably not one of them is right in everything, and both can have many things right but also some thing(s) utterly wrong. Would that be a reason to exclude them? As long as it are not the most important basic elements of faith, we would say “No”. And we also would say those differences of opinion do not have to exclude union in speech. Both can still have the same basic faith for belonging in the “Church of God”.

It does matter if a person’s misunderstanding of a Bible passage, or several passages, will take him or her out of the way that leads to salvation. It doesn’t matter if the view is simply differing details such as timing and location and protagonists.

What is more important is how we deal with our inevitable differences.

Suppose a person with a particular view is 100% right on an issue that could easily affect the salvation of a person with a different view. The matter doesn’t stop here. If the first person (the one who is perfectly right) is not patient, gentle and meek in trying to persuade the second person (2 Tim 2:24,25), but rather impatient, harsh and accusatory (manifested by strong words, condescension, indignation, arrogance, or threats), then his correctness counts for little:

“The Lord’s servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth” (2 Timothy 2:24,25).

Wrong behaviour more than cancels out right knowledge. If anyone has been blessed to have the right understanding of Scripture, then he or she has the responsibility to be forthright but caring toward those who do not yet share that understanding. Such patient, gentle teaching imitates the prophets, the apostles, and Jesus himself.

Getting knowledge at different moments in time

Not every one is at the same time gifted with the same knowledge. For some it make take ‘ages’ before they come to Biblical insight. Others may see things very easily. Some might remember appropriate Bible verses very easily,others easily forget them, though they know and remember what has been said and meant in the verses.

The one who may think he or she is right about the meaning of a certain part in the Bible, has to take on the Agape love of Christ and be patient, willing to give the other person the time to find out how it really is. In the meantime he can provide enough study material and show interest in the other person his or her way of thinking. Together they should unite to go into research of the different matters we should get knowledge of.

When we encounter differences in opinion, we also should ask ourselves if those differences are so important or can interfere with the real belief.

  • Does the difference really matter?
  • How should you deal with the difference?

Clear language

To find clarity we always should look in the Bible to find the Truth, by comparing verses in other books and by looking if one saying does not contradict an other saying of way of thinking. The Bible does not contradict itself. God is a God of order and clarity. He did not speak in “broebeltaal” (a strange language nobody can understand), He also does not speak in a “broddeltaal” (a ‘bungle language) scribbles or a clumsy language. He has given clear words, but people do have to be willing to take them as they are written down. As soon as they fabricate their own dogma’s they shall get in trouble. But that is not because of the Words written in the bible, but because of man’s own fault of thinking god’s Words can only be understood by learned people. God does not ask from man to have a special education to interpret His Words. In all people He has given the possibility to get to understand and to know what they should understand and know at the time.

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Preceding articles:

Finding God amid all the religious externals

Seeing or not seeing and willingness to find God

People Seeking for God 1 Looking for answers

To be continued:

People Seeking for God 3 Laws and directions

People Seeking for God 4 Biblical terms

People Seeking for God 5 Bread of life

People Seeking for God 6 Strategy

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Please find also to read:

  1. Faith
  2. Epitome of the one faith
  3. My (Christadelphian) faith
  4. Hope
  5. True Hope
  6. Did the Inspirator exist
  7. God, Creation and the Bible Hope
  8. God of gods
  9. Sayings around God
  10. Full authority belongs to God
  11. Who Wrote the Bible?
  12. Bible Word from God
  13. Pure Words and Testimonies full of Breath of the Most High
  14. Trusting, Faith, calling and Ascribing to Jehovah #3 Voice of God #4 Words in Scripture
  15. Creator and Blogger God 10 A Blog of a Book 4 Listening to the Blogger
  16. Creator and Blogger God 12 Old and New Blog 2 Blog for every day
  17. Bible a guide – Bijbel als gids
  18. Bible guide Taking the Bible as a lead
  19. Statutes given unto us
  20. Absolute Basics to Reading the Bible
  21. Digging in words, theories and artefacts
  22. Bible Translating and Concordance Making
  23. The Metaphorical language of the Bible
  24. Finding and Understanding Words and Meanings
  25. Out of Context: How to Avoid Misinterpreting the Bible
  26. Which View is Right?
  27. Bible in the first place #1/3
  28. Bible in the first place #2/3
  29. Bible in the first place #3/3
  30. Missional hermeneutics 1/5
  31. Missional hermeneutics 2/5
  32. Missional hermeneutics 3/5
  33. Missional hermeneutics 4/5
  34. Missional hermeneutics 5/5
  35. Story and Typology
  36. Accuracy, Word-for-Word Translation Preferred by most Bible Readers
  37. Knowing old sayings to understand the Bible
  38. Archaeology and the Bible
  39. Fear knocked at the door
  40. Getting to know the Truth
  41. Why believing the Bible
  42. The Bible: God’s Word or pious myth?
  43. Bric-a-brac of the Bible
  44. Unsure about relevance Bible
  45. Appointed to be read
  46. Youth has difficulty Bible Reading
  47. Learn to read the Bible effectively
  48. We should use the Bible every day
  49. A Bible Falling Apart Belongs to Someone who isn’t
  50. Of the many books Only the Bible can transform
  51. The manager and Word of God
  52. Scripture alone Sola Scriptora
  53. What English Bible do you use?
  54. NWT and what other scholars have to say to its critics
  55. Christian clergyman defiling book which did not belong to him
  56. Manifests for believers #5 Christian Union
  57. Minimizing the power of God’s Force the Holy Spirit
  58. Prophets making excuses
  59. The Bible is a today book
  60. Bible for you and for life
  61. Bible like puddle of water
  62. Cell phone vs. Bible
  63. How to look for and how to handle the Truth
  64. The truth is very plain to see and God can be clearly seen
  65. Relapse plan
  66. Clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience
  67. American atheists most religiously literate Americans
  68. Power in the life of certain
  69. Be an Encourager
  70. Possibility to live
  71. Determined To Stick With Truth.
  72. Feed Your Faith Daily
  73. Faith antithesis of rationality
  74. Discipleship way of life on the narrow way to everlasting life
  75. First Century of Christianity
  76. Many churches
  77. An ecclesia in your neighborhood

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If Jesus was God, why did he pray to himself?

If Jesus was God, why did he pray to himself? (Photo credit: Zombie Inc. Wholesale Zombies for Over 25 years)

When Jesus is God,
how does it come there are so many pictures and statues made of him by those who say he is God,
whilst God tells His followers not to make any picture of Him?
Why do they not keep to those commandments of the Most High God, who says they may have only One God
and not worship any other being?

  • There are many Trinities! (onthehillgilayjun.blogspot.com)
    While the majority of the Christian world considers the concept of the Trinity vital to Christianity, many historians and Bible scholars agree that the Trinity of Christianity owes more to Greek philosophy and pagan polytheism than to the monotheism of the Jew and the Jewish Jesus.
  • Trinitarianism Is Not __________ (onetheology.com)
    Modalism  (also known as Sabellianism, named after it’s earliest proponent, Sabelius, in the 3rd century.) believes that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are different names for the same God acting in different roles or manifestations at difference times in salvation history. God is not really three distinct persons. In some circles people often call Modalism “Oneness” or “Jesus Only”. This view has also been called “Monarchianism.” Today, the largest Modalist group is the United Pentecostal Church. Modalisms emphasis on there being one God makes it attractive too many.
  • In Another Post On A Really Bad Idea (supertradmum-etheldredasplace.blogspot.com) can be seen how far one can go when start believing one person is the other. Like when is assumed that Jesus is God that would make the mother of Jesus also the mother of God and than it would be very strange if that mother could sin. Therefore ther are people who claim she could not have sinned. they than dare to say:
    “To deny her perfection and her relationship with the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost would be heresy.”

“She only questioned the angel as she did not know how she would have Christ without a man. Gabriel explained. Mary, all her life was in harmony with God’s perfect Will. She trusted God. She was not anxious. These are all Protestant interpretations. She did not talk to Joseph as she trusted in God.”

  • Theophany, Epiphany and the Holy Trinity (orthodoxmom3.wordpress.com) may look at “Theophany”, to be celebrated on January 6th being the Feast Day celebrating the manifestation of God. They do not seem to listen to the words of God Who clearly says who is being baptised. At the time of Jesus his baptism by John in the Jordan God revealed not Himself to people as the Holy Trinity (not at all found in Matt. 3:16) but he revealed that the Nazarene Jew was God His beloved son.
    Matthew 3:16-17 according the Bibles we do have clearely states:   Yeshua, when he was immersed, went up directly from the water: and behold, the heavens were opened to him. He saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove, and coming on him.  (17)  Behold, a voice out of the heavens said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” (HNV)

One can wounder if Scriptures can not be lear enough when one person speak about the other. Do the Trinitarians not want to believe Jesus or iIs jesus also not clear enough with saying: “This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent, Yeshua the Messiah. ” (John 17:3 HNV)?

  • Nineteenth Century Protestant Doctrines of the Trinity (redeemingthetext.wordpress.com)
    The Oxford Handbook of the Trinity is, in brief form, one of how Enlightenment philosopher-theologians developed innovative ways to discuss the Trinity and their effectiveness leading into the twentieth century. Samuel Powell, Professor of Philosophy and Religion at Point Loma Nazarene University, makes the point that there is a typical narrative associated with nineteenth-century theology: Schleiermacher delivered the final blow and Barth revived it (267).
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    Not being convinced scripturally of the nature or the necessity of the Trinity, nineteenth-century theologians turned to philosophy to answer their questions. Powell describes it as providing “philosophical answers with expressly Trinitarian features (269).” This move loosened the shackles of theological presuppositions and creedal traditions. Nineteenth-century theology was freed to philosophically construct a new horizon for the doctrine of God. Powell examines four prominent figures to structure his argument.
  • How to Identify a Christian Cult (924jeremiah.wordpress.com) overlooks the fact what really makes a cult and talks about a figure, which is according the Bible the adversary of God. Though on the site is also written: “The followers of such cults will say that they believe in Jesus. They will use the terms “God” and “Holy Spirit.” They will talk about baptism, salvation, Heaven and Hell. Some will even acknowledge the cross as a means of atoning for sins.”
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    “Satan simply can’t afford to let his followers get too close to the truth about who Christ is, and what He accomplished on earth. So if you want to find out if you’re talking to a real Christian or not, start drilling them about Jesus.”
    But then overlooks that this Satan has his followers who do not want to accept taht Jesus really was tempted, could sin but did not sin. And gives the impression that those who do not want to take the words of God and Jesus for what they say are the good ones, or the churches to follow, whilst the ones who accept Jesus his offering for our sins (like we) and accept hat he is the “son of God” like God Himself said would be belonging to a sect, though they really believe in what Jesus himself said, accepting that he nor God would ever lie:
    ” (3)  “And this is everlasting life, that they should know You, the only true Elohim, and יהושע {Jehsua} Messiah whom You have sent.” (John 17:3 The Scriptures 1998+)
    What always surprises us is that such websites accusing certain denominations, like the Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons to be cult, never leave any place to react on what is said. (On January 23, 2014, there is no possibility to reply on the writings on that website, nor the above mentioned article.)
  • How to Avoid Being Led Astray by False Shepherds (924jeremiah.wordpress.com)
    If you’re like most Christians, you don’t know your Bible very well. You never went to Bible college or seminary. You’ve had no theological training. Can you really engage with the professionals and not get hurt? Can you really become wiser than them even though you don’t have any diplomas in Hebrew or theology? Of course you can. Keep reading.
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    As a member of God’s flock, you need to be constantly listening for His Voice in the things you hear and read.
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    The Holy Spirit is your resident Counselor. He is with you at all times. He is your Guardian, Teacher, and Truth Tester. You must not let any earthly being become equal to Him in your mind. No matter how many brilliant posts, books, or sermons someone cranks out, their next one could be a pack of lies. Never put your trust in a label, a name, a face, or a reputation. Everything must be checked with the Holy Spirit.
  • Like most websites on the Trinity Reflection: The Trinity (sydneystaggs.wordpress.com) does not leave any place to comment. though she writes luckily: “Take a look at scripture. What does it say about God the Father? What does it say about God the Son? What does it say about the Holy Spirit? How are they different?”
    We can only hope people would come to see what God says about Jesus and what Jesus says about his Father.
  • A Call for Division in the Visible Church (5ptsalt.com)
    if Unitarianism by its denial of the Holy Trinity has patently forfeited every claim to the Christian name, it is difficult to see how a church which has wittingly and willfully accepted the control of modernism, with its denial of the essential deity of Christ and such supernatural events as His virgin birth and bodily resurrection, has any right to be called Christian. Such a church should be denominated a false church and declared to be outside the Christian fold. If that were done, one of the greatest obstacles to the unification of the visible church would be eliminated. For theological liberalism, in all its clamor for ecumenism and church union, is working more effectively toward the disruption of the church of Christ than is any other force. The first need of the church of this day is not union, but division; however, division unto union.
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    the failure to keep the various teachings of Scripture in balance with each other and the consequent stressing of one or some of them out of all proportion to others, have frequently destroyed the visible unity of Christ’s church. Riding a theological hobby is by no means an innocent pastime. Of such sins it behooves churches everywhere to repent, and from them they must desist.- R. B. Kuiper, The Glorious Body of Christ, pp. 51-54
  • World Mission Society Church of God is saying the core of the Bible – God: Christ ahnsahnghong and God the mother (followersofahnsahnghong.wordpress.com)
    2000 years ago, the disciples who met Christ could find the way to the kingdom of heaven through his teachings. But as the time passed by, the way taught by Jesus disappeared by Satan who tried to disturb the Work of God’s Redemption (Daniel 7:25; Revelation 5:1.) How can we, human beings who lost the way of salvation, find it again? The Bible prophesies that Christ is to appear once again for our salvation.
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The wrong hero

In the Western World we can find people who love to honour a creator that is far beyond any human person. In the East people worship other gods, but also do have three or two headed divinities. The clergy and followers of the many sects or cults of Christendom worship also such more than one in one God, but they prefer not to give them a specific name. A lot of those worshippers give preference to have a nameless triune lord or do not know the name of their God. though the one who created the earth, heaven and everything around us, has a name that He picked out Himself – YaHuWhah = Jehovah.

It is ‘that god’, the God of all, Jehovah the Elohim, who is the Maker of everything, the Provider, the Father of us all.

 

Madonna of humility by Fra Angelico, c. 1430.

Madonna of humility by Fra Angelico, c. 1430. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Nearly two thousand years ago a son to Him was born, who was taken by many to be their god. For them that man of Nazareth became their Hero who they could worship like the vast majority of people prefer to worship some one. Worshipping some one or something is as old as the street. We can find Hindu gods but to us mostly the Germanic or Celtic gods are know. People also know folks who like to worship Allah, Buddha, Jesus; Mary, the mother of Jesus, but even money and sex do not escape the line of fame. Mostly a name is given to the subject to be worshipped, but in Christendom we can find also a nameless lord; almost anything but Jehovah. Then, these very people who ignore Jehovah wonder why He ignores them.

Though the Holy Scriptures, they say they take as their guide, tell us enough about the Lord of lords, His Name and His position as well what He wants. But it looks like most of the people do not read those Book of Books because they prefer to read the theological works of people from the past and present. The main character of the Biblical Books is YHWH or Jehovah, the Elohim Hashem, who explained how He wanted to be worshipped and we have His directions written down in the Bible so that future generations can follow this Spirit who has given us enough information so that we can find Him and understand Him.

“I have let Myself be inquired of, not by those who asked; I was found, not by those who sought Me. I said, ‘Here I am, here I am,’ to a nation not calling on My Name.” (Isaiah 65:1 The Scriptures 1998+)

“Elohim is Spirit, and those who worship Him need to worship in spirit and truth.” (John 4:24 The Scriptures 1998+)

To those who really want to follow God and give honour to the right persons, it is not always made easy, because through history some translators and copyists have altered and changed the
wording of various scriptures in order to support false beliefs such as the Trinity Dogma.  That happened as they did not seem to be afraid for the important warning that nothing should be to add to, nor taken away from the words of the Holy Scriptures.

“For I witness to everyone hearing the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to them, Elohim shall add to him the plagues that are written in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, Elohim shall take away his part from the Book of Life, and out of the set-apart city, which are written in this Book. ” (Revelation 22:18-19 The Scriptures 1998+)

The confusion wanted to be created could by the removing of Gods Name easily be hold between two heroes of the Bible, namely the Father of the Old Testament (Jehovah God) and the son of the New Testament (Jeshua/Jesus son of God).  According to this transfer could one furrow each other easier to fall in the trap of the notion “God the son“.  The principle of the Holy Trinity could then be kept more easily. The omitting of the Name of God or the changing of the word-order opened the doors to mis-interpretation or mistranslation, errors in textual transmission which could give grounds to the idea of the imposed Trinity doctrine. Added texts like the one not found in any Greek manuscript before the fourteenth century for 1 John 5:8 where late manuscripts of the Vulgate testify “in heaven: the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. And there are three that testify on earth”. If you look carefully in the translation you can even sometimes find outright forgery. These can often be exposed by even a cursory glance at an English/Greek interlinear Bible or a Greek concordance.

Luckily, but also strangely enough, God’s Word has been amazingly well preserved, no matter what people tried to do with it to destroy it or to bring it in oblivion.  In the world there are many translations and/or versions available and people can compare those translations and the wording used in it. Comparisons between the English versions and the oldest existing manuscripts (The Old Testament‘s “Dead Sea Scrolls” date to around 100 B.C., and the oldest New Testament fragments date to around A.D. 120!), prove that the vast majority of the original meaning is still intact and easily perceivable from most any Bible by the average Christian. So if you know which word is been used in a translation for a certain thing or person, you always can find the clue to understand it fully. The Truth comes always to the forefront, no matter which version you use. So, please do take up your favourite Bible translation and read it from begin to end. Then you shall be able, if you read carefully and listen to the Words of the Holy Scriptures, to find all solutions and sea clear no matter which fog churches want to spread over the world.

You shall be able to recognise the characters presented in the different Books of the Bible. Their positive as well as their negative points shall become visible. You also shall be able to see the relation between all the figures. You shall get to know all the heroes of the past and of the People of God, Israel.

One of the most mistaken heroes is Jesus or Jeshua/Jashua/Jehoshua. In the Bible’s second part, the New Testament, we can find the story of his life. there we can find that in Bethlehem Jesus of Nazareth was born. So he had a beginning and had to grow up. He lived on this earth and died to redeem mankind from the curse of sin brought on by the first man, Adam. But this son, Jesus Christ was not God himself, but fully 100% man, the perfect agent and representative of God, one who always did his father’s will, and could therefore rightfully say “He who has seen me has seen the father” (John 14:9). Because in Jesus Christ, the Messiah, we can see several characteristics of his Father.

In about 68 places we are told that Jesus is the son of the Father, our Hashem Elohim God. Being a child of someone does not make it in being the same person as the father, even when there are so many things the same as that person. As we can look like our father and do like our father, it does not make us an incarnation of our father. Even when people say “He is just his father”, it does not mean that we are the father.

To “beget” something means to “give rise to” it, to “generate” some new thing out of nothing. If God begat Jesus, then God was the source of Jesus’ “beginning”, who could not have been around until he was “begotten“. Also along these same lines, contrary to the statement that Jesus was part of the Trinity as “God the Son” through all eternity, Luke said that the very reason he “shall be (future tense) called the son of God” would be his divine conception and his birth from Mary (Miriam) (Luke 1:35). So if this was to be the reason he would thereafter be called the Son of God, then he was not the Son of God before his birth. We might also consider the implications of the word “birth” in places such as Matthew 1:18. It is the Greek word “gennesis”, which means “beginning”.

While Jesus was on earth he truly worshipped God, and God listened to his prayers.

” who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and petitions with strong crying and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His reverent fear, though being a Son, He learned obedience by what He suffered. ” (Hebrews 5:7-8 The Scriptures 1998+)

The Television serial saga Heroes about people all over the world discovering that they have superpowers and trying to deal with how this change affects their lives is as fictitious as giving Jesus superpowers of his own. A hero (heroine) (Ancient Greek: ἥρως, hḗrōs), in Greek mythology and folklore, was originally a demigod, their cult being one of the most distinctive features of ancient Greek religion. Some people take it that Jesus was half man half God. they do seem to forget that God is a spirit who can not die, while Jesus really died. Making Jesus not just as a god but as The God who is eternal would take the essence of his action away. Making him the God of gods, would not give him the full honour of his  and his Fathers saying.

Jesus from the Deesis Mosaic

Jesus from the Deesis Mosaic (Photo credit: jakebouma)

 

Jesus was not exactly a hero in the sense of “ἥρως” (heros), “hero, warrior” but he did something enormous for humankind. His deed of giving his self for all sinners was great, because he did it voluntary and for his Father to whom he obeyed. In the literal sense literally “protector” or “defender” he came up for those who could not speak up, the poor ones, the sinful ones, the illiterate, the ones who are willing to go into the footsteps of the son of God. Jesus has become the defender of man and women and so can be our hero too. The Indo-European root of Hero is *ser meaning “to protect” and that is what Jesus did with his blood-offering. By his action, and following his lessons, we are protected and can count on it to be saved. The Greek word Hērōs “is akin to” the Latin seruāre, meaning to safeguard and that is what Jesus is wiling to do.

Osiris, Prometheus, Theseus, Dionysus, Moses, Buddha may be the heroes of very ancient times. Rabindranath Tagore, Mohandas, Karamchand Gandhi, Che Guevara, Nelson Mandela, Bob Dylan, a..o. could be heroes who played a key role in a whole generation some years ago. Today there are other new heroes and persons who are given the role of being the god of this or that. The real heroes are the modest ones who never claim to be Thé Hero. Jesus also never claimed to be the hero nor a god or the God. He knew that he knew less than his Father and that everything what he did was done by the Father, who had revealed His name also to His son.

We find about two thousand years ago Yahshua/Jehsua/Jeshua Jesus the Messiah, made lower than the angels for the suffering of death, but by doing this heroic deed he earned to be crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

“But we do see Him who was made for a little while lower than the messengers, יהושע, because of the suffering of death crowned with esteem and respect, that by the favour of Elohim He should taste death for everyone. ” (Hebrews 2:9 The Scriptures 1998+)

“And I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Set-apart Father, guard them in Your Name which You have given Me, so that they might be one, as We are. (John 17:11 The Scriptures 1998+)

“When I was with them in the world, I was guarding them in Your Name which You have given Me, and I watched over them, and not one of them perished except the son of destruction, that the Scripture might be filled.” (John 17:12 The Scriptures 1998+)

“As You sent Me into the world, I also sent them into the world. (John 17:18 The Scriptures 1998+)

“I have much to say and to judge concerning you. But He who sent Me is true, and what I heard from Him, these Words I speak to the world.” They did not know that He spoke to them of the Father. So  יהושע said to them, “When you lift up the Son of Ad?am, then you shall know that I am He, and that I do none at all of Myself, but as My Father taught Me, these words I speak. “And He who sent Me is with Me. The Father has not left Me alone, for I always do what pleases Him.” (John 8:26-29 The Scriptures 1998+)

“יהושע {Jeshua} said to her, “Do not hold on to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father. But go to My brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My Elohim and your Elohim.’ ” (John 20:17 The Scriptures 1998+)

“There were indeed many other signs that  יהושע did in the presence of His taught ones, which are not written in this book, but these have been written so that you believe that  יהושע is the Messiah, the Son of Elohim,1 and that, believing, you might possess life in His Name. Footnote: 1See Mt. 16:16. “(John 20:30-31 The Scriptures 1998+)

“You heard that I said to you, ‘I am going away and I am coming to you.’ If you did love Me, you would have rejoiced that I said, ‘I am going to the Father,’ for My Father is greater than I. “And now I have told you before it takes place, that when it does take place, you shall believe. (John 14:28-29 The Scriptures 1998+)

“For, let this mind be in you which was also in Messiah יהושע, who, being in the form of Elohim, did not regard equality with Elohim a matter to be grasped, but emptied Himself, taking the form of a servant, and came to be in the likeness of men. And having been found in fashion as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient unto death, death even of a stake. Elohim, therefore, has highly exalted Him and given Him the Name which is above every name, that at the Name of יהושע every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and every tongue should confess that יהושע Messiah is Master, to the esteem of Elohim the Father. (Philippians 2:5-11 The Scriptures 1998+)

“And I wish you to know that the head of every man is the Messiah, and the head of woman is the man, and the head of Messiah is Elohim. ” (1 Corinthians 11:3 The Scriptures 1998+)

This hero is even going to be so humble and honest to give the Kingdom of God back to his Father.

” And when all are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself shall also be subject to Him who put all under Him, in order that Elohim be all in all. ” (1 Corinthians 15:28 The Scriptures 1998+)

It is only after all the work he had done that Jesus was placed higher and received a position above all created things and persons.

“… יהושע Messiah,  who, having gone into heaven, is at the right hand of Elohim, messengers and authorities and powers having been subjected to Him.” (1 Peter 3:22 The Scriptures 1998+)

You may take Jesus as your hero, but do not make him more important than he is and do not give him a higher position than he himself would want to take. Listen carefully to his words and those of his Father. In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways. He also had given us his son, the Master teacher. Because in these last days God has spoken to us by his Son, we better take note of what that son said.

“Elohim, having of old spoken in many portions and many ways to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by the Son, whom He has appointed heir of all, through whom also He made the ages, who being the brightness of the esteem and the exact representation of His substance, and sustaining all by the word of His power, having made a cleansing of our sins through Himself, sat down at the right hand of the Greatness on high, ” (Hebrews 1:1-3 The Scriptures 1998+)

For Jeshua/Jesus has given to us the words which his Father had given to him, we should have to known surely that this hero Jesus came out from God, and we should believe that He the Only One God, Elohim Hashem Jehovah did send him.

“I have esteemed You on the earth, having accomplished the work You have given Me that I should do. “And now, esteem Me with Yourself, Father, with the esteem which I had with You before the world was. “I have revealed Your Name to the men whom You gave Me out of the world. They were Yours, and You gave them to Me, and they have guarded Your Word.1 Footnote: 1See Ps. 138:2. “Now they have come to know that all You gave to Me, is from You. “Because the Words which You gave to Me, I have given to them. And they have received them, and have truly known that I came forth from You, and they believed that You sent Me. “I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours. “And all Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine, and I have been esteemed in them.” (John 17:4-10 The Scriptures 1998+)

The Hero Jesus is the Servant of the greatest Hero, Creator of all.

“See, My Servant whom I have chosen, My Beloved in whom My being did delight. I shall put My Spirit upon Him, and He shall declare right-ruling to the nations.” (Matthew 12:18 The Scriptures 1998+)

Let us listen to this humble man, who did not mind becoming a servant for us all and who sits at the right hand of his Father and like Jesus obeyed always to this Father, we should listen and obey to Jesus, the son of God, and obey his Father, the Only One God Jehovah.

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The Dutch version of this article can be found under: Nederlandse versie:  De verkeerde held

Excerpt of the book of Exodus from the The Gre...

Excerpt of the book of Exodus from the The Great Bible (entitled The Byble in Englyshe), publ. 1540. The English form Iehovah (Jehovah as the “J” stands for both I and the later J) is used for the Tetragrammaton at Exodus 6:3. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

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  1. Idolatry or idol worship
  2. Trusting, Faith, calling and Ascribing to Jehovah #3 Voice of God #1 Creator and His Prophets
  3. God is one
  4. God of gods
  5. Only one God
  6. Attributes to God
  7. Full authority belongs to God
  8. God about His name “יהוה“
  9. Trusting, Faith, calling and Ascribing to Jehovah #2 Calling upon the Name of God
  10. Who Is Jehovah?
  11. Why Is God’s Name Missing From Many Bibles?
  12. The Bible and names in it
  13. Will God’s People Be Stumbled By The Name Of Jehoshua?
  14. Jesus begotten Son of God #4 Promised Prophet and Saviour
  15. Jesus begotten Son of God #10 Coming down spirit or flesh seed of Eve
  16. Jesus begotten Son of God #19 Compromising fact
  17. Jesus – The Promised Messiah
  18. Jesus spitting image of his father
  19. Servant of his Father
  20. If the Father is the “only true God” (John 17:3) , does that mean that Jesus is a false god?
  21. Seeing Jesus
  22. Is Jesus God?
  23. Jesus Christ and God – Some Basic Considerations
  24. Pre-existence of Christ
  25. Around pre-existence of Christ
  26. Trinity And Pagan Influence
  27. The Trinity – the truth
  28. The Trinity – A Doctrine Overdue for Extinction
  29. Trinity: A False Doctrine of a False Church
  30. Trinity Proof Texts Considered
  31. God – helper and deliverer
  32. Fear of God reason to return to Holy Scriptures
  33. The World framed by the Word of God
  34. Trusting, Faith, calling and Ascribing to Jehovah #3 Voice of God #6 Words to feed and communicate
  35. Video – Worshipping God
  36. Video – Commandments of God
  37. Self inflicted misery #4 To whom to listen
  38. Self inflicted misery #5 A prophet without a hedge around him
  39. Self inflicted misery #7 Good news to our suffering
  40. A small company of Jesus’ footstep follower
  41. Heroes and saints
  42. Follower of Jesus part of a cult or a Christian
  43. Breaking up with a cult
  44. Those who call the Christadelphians a cult
  45. Childish or reasonable ways
  46. People are turning their back on Christianity
  47. Clergy not contributing enough to America

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