Where’s the Outrage Over Nun Beachwear? – The Daily Beast

Andrew L Griffith author of Multiculturalism in Canada: Evidence and Anecdote, providing an integrated view of how well multiculturalism is working, and Policy Arrogance or Innocent Bias: Resetting Citizenship and Multiculturalism, describing the relationship between the bureaucratic and political levels, regularly comments on citizenship, multiculturalism and related issues, in his blog, Multiculturalism Meanderings, as well in the media.

 

In addition to being posted to the Canadian Mission to the World Trade Organization, Geneva, where he was the lead negotiator for trade and environment and standards issues, Andrew has held trade assignments in Los Angeles, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Argentina.
Now living in Ottawa being married and having two adult children, he looks at Southern Europe, where the last word isn’t said yet about the burkini.

 

He remembers quit well that when you go to any public beach in Italy the chances are you’ll eventually see a woman wearing a veil and long skirt.

But she likely won’t be a Muslim in a version of the controversial burqini. She will almost certainly be a Catholic nun in her summer habit either watching children in her care or, God forbid, just enjoying some sun, which is considered a human right here in Italy, where the sea defines the majority of the borders.

No one in Italy would dare blink an eye at the sight of a habit-wearing sister at the seaside or even in the water

Though in France this may now be a total different matter, because enough people saw that those nuns were even more covered than their Muslim sisters. Therefore nuns’ habits are now also banned from some French beaches. The deputy mayor of Nice has confirmed the decision not only to ban any form of religious signs, like crosses, yarmulke a.o., as the furore over a ban on burkinis continues to rage.

 

Rudy Salles defended himself

“When you go to the beach you wear a bathing suit. You don’t go to the beach as you want. If I want to go on the beach naked it’s forbidden – I cannot,”

seemingly forgetting that the burkini is swimwear, so no objection should be made against such clothing where there are several fashionable suits as well.

 

The deputy mayor made it clear that

“If you want to go to the beach in a burkini it’s forbidden because it is a provocation. Religion and the state are completely separated. Religion is the affair of each one but each one at home, each one at church, not each one in the street.”

and as such

The same [ban would apply] for nuns.

 

These comments of the deputy mayor came after the many discussions around the burkini ban and after the secretary general of the Italian bishops’ conference criticised the ban.

 

Bishop Nunzio Galantino said in an interview with Corriere della Sera:

“It’s hard to imagine that a woman [in a burkini] who enters the water is there to carry out an attack.”

He added:

“I can only think of our nuns, and I think of our peasant grandmothers who still wear head coverings.”

and continued:

“The freedom to be granted to religious symbols should be considered on a par with the freedom to express one’s beliefs and to follow them in public life. And, let me tell you: I find it ironic that we are alarmed that a woman is overdressed while swimming in the sea!”

 

Our guestwriter from Canada remembers Marco Beoni, a barista at a coffee bar along the sea near Sabaudia, about an hour south of Rome, who told The Daily Beast

“We have nuns on the beach all the time. They go in the water in their skirts and sit on blankets just like everyone else. Who cares what they are wearing. What’s the problem?” 

 

France having a problem with covered skin of certain women gets herself more in trouble it looks like, and let us see her real face.

 

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To remember

  • French beach resorts banning women wearing the burqini (burkini) = modest full coverage swimwear
  • Socialist Prime Minister Manuel Valls waded into the debate = declaring wearing of burqini “not compatible with the values of France and the Republic.”
  • Angelino Alfano 2015.jpeg

    Angelino Alfano, leader of the Italian New Centre-Right party which is a split from the PdL

    Italy’s interior minister, Angelino Alfano, no great fan of immigration or integration of non-Italians into the country, said > France making a mistake by banning the burqini.

  • aim to avoid certain prohibitions interpreted as provocations => trigger retaliation towards Italy <= France banning interpreted religious wear on the beach

 

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Preceding articles

Being Religious and Spiritual 2 Religiosity and spiritual life

Connection between women and environmental sustainability

Poverty and conservative role patterns

Women their education and chances to become a parliamentary

French showing to the whole world their fear and weaknesses

Does Banning Face Veils Help Us Fight Terrorism?

Islamism Rises from Europe’s Secularism

You are what you wear

TUNISIA-ISLAM-LEISURE

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Additional reading

  1. Women’s Groups Say Gender Equality is a Must for Sustainable Development
  2. Gender connections
  3. Gender equality and women’s rights in the post-2015 agenda
  4. What is Racism??
  5. Is Europe going to become a dictatorial bastion
  6. On French beach French police forces woman to undress in public
  7. Women in France running with naked bosom all right but with covered bosom penalised
  8. France and the Burkini
  9. Not limiting others but sharing peace with all
  10. What we don’t say about the refugee crisis?
  11. A charter for a truly free world and why we need it
  12. When will it stop
  13. ‘I try to keep my hate in check. If you can’t hate, you can’t love.’

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Further of interest

  1. A Burqini is not Equivalent to a Burqa
  2. Nudism/Naturism and burkini madness: Why not ban all clothes at the beach?
  3. The scandal of women’s bodies in secular Europe
  4. Everyone everywhere wants to tell women what to wear
  5. Forcing a Muslim Woman To Undress is Not Fighting Oppression. That IS Oppression!
  6. Does Banning Face Veils Help Us Fight Terrorism?
  7. You may find this offensive The Burqini Ban
  8. Burkini and French Secularism
  9. Islam and the downfall of European culture
  10. Why the French burkini ban is damaging feminism
  11. At what point does a ban become a chance to publicly humiliate?
  12. the decomposition of logic and democratic values
  13. The Burkini Ban is good. Not to let your Country turn into Saudi Arabia – without Oil – in a couple of Decades, we must defend it. The right that our countries remain western.
  14. Another Attack on Western Civilization from Muslim Women
  15. Does France have a problem with racism?
  16. Burkinis in the land of Liberté, égalité, fraternité
  17. Burkini Ban : French Farce
  18. The Day The News Made My Blood Boil
  19. French burkini ban exposes the myth of neutral secularism
  20. Bretons bathe fully clothed as Muslim asked to leave beach
  21. French mayors dismiss suspended burqini ban
  22. United Nations Strongly Condemns French Authorities Decision to Ban Burkani
  23. What Not To Wear: A Short History Of Regulating Female Dress From Ancient Sparta To The Burkini
  24. You’ve Got to BurKining Me!
  25. To bare or not to bare

Multicultural Meanderings

Indeed:

Go to any public beach in Italy and chances are you’ll eventually see a woman wearing a veil and long skirt. But she likely won’t be a Muslim in a version of the controversial burqini. She will almost certainly be a Catholic nun in her summer habit either watching children in her care or, God forbid, just enjoying some sun, which is considered a human right here in Italy, where the sea defines the majority of the borders.  

No one in Italy would dare blink an eye at the sight of a habit-wearing sister at the seaside or even in the water

“We have nuns on the beach all the time,” Marco Beoni, a barista at a coffee bar along the sea near Sabaudia, about an hour south of Rome, told The Daily Beast. “They go in the water in their skirts and sit on…

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