French showing to the whole world their fear and weakness

Terrorist beginnings

The previous year France and Belgium had to face very serious attacks to the integrity of their nation.

In the mid-1980s Belgium had already an experience of terrorist actions. Primarily engaged in bombings within Belgium’s borders the CCC or Cellules Communistes Combattantes (Communist Combatant Cells) attacked perceived enemies of communism, specifically NATO, US and other international businesses and the Federation of Belgian Enterprises. Today many may have forgotten those Cellules Communistes Combattantes their attacks which led to several injuries and only two deaths, whilst the Bende van Nijvel or Nivelles Gang, also known as the Brabant killers managed to kill 28 people and got 40 seriously injured between 1982 and 1985, but are also left in the past.

This present day also after the bombings at the airport and metro of Brussels, and the several terrorist attacks by Islamic terrorists all over the country, made the Belgium a little bit more alert They had tears for the victims (Christians, atheists, but also Muslims) but also very sensitive to continue to live on, not giving in to the Islamic terrorists, fearing everything about Muslims.

Taken by fear and covering clothes

The French seem to be taken so much by fear they start panicking as soon as they see a Muslim man or Muslim woman. Even worse, when they notice a Muslim woman in covering clothes or in a swimsuit they get in a terrible state and start using bad words and doing abusive degrading, humiliating actions. Do they really think such devout person, covering her body parts, would be a threat for their life?

Several majors of French cities and several politicians tried to limit the way women can chose their dress. On Thursday, the council of state, France’s highest administrative court, and judicial and advisory body, examined a request by the French Human Rights League to scrap the burkini bans which were imposed and caused already several disturbing  and very embarrassing terrible humiliating situations.

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Women in France facing fines and humiliation for wearing burkinis (Photo AFP/Getty)

Beachwear ban and infringement on basic freedom

The bans – made in the form of mayoral decrees – followed the Bastille Day attack in Nice and the murder of a priest in Normandy. Though they do not explicitly use the word burkini but instead ban

beachwear which ostentatiously displays religious affiliation”,

citing reasons such as the need to protect public order, hygiene or French laws on secularism, many women wearing too much covering clothes were reprimanded and those with a burkini were forced to take it off and to pay a fine.

At a hearing before the state council on Thursday, lawyers for the rights groups in the Villeneuve-Loubet case argued that the bans were feeding fear and infringe on basic freedom.

Lawyers argued that the short-term decrees are illegal and had good reason to declare such bans to be against human rights of liberty, in a state which had liberty in its ensing, having Liberty, Equality and Fraternity as their three core values.

Burkini ban

burqiniThe film-temple Cannes was the one to start all the fuss and gave the kick-off for banning the burkini because it

“could risk disrupting public order while France was the target of terrorist attacks”

by which you may wonder how such covering up of the body, still showing it is a woman in the dress, would disrupt public order. When the way of dress would create others to react negatively, the state should react on those who take on a racist attitude and not on the one who wears ordinary clothes. The second reason of imposing the restriction should ring strange bells in our ears: It is said those town imposed this law because burkinis ‘are’

“not respectful of [the] good morals and secularism

of France. Where we do have to question which those good morals are, when you see all that body exploitation, commercial nudity, fornication, a.o.. Against the secularisation we can understand, noticing that the state wants to exclude any from of religion, Judaism, real Christianity, though not objecting the pagan Roman Catholic Church because those Catholics do not do much with their religion and for those few priests and nuns who are in such minority, why should the state bother, because most people do not take them serious.

In France though most would oppose when a nun was forced to take off her habit on a beach, though lots of French people did find it right to have Muslim women to be forced to take off their (often even less covering) clothes. We even got to see where some police officers ‘helped’ to take off the clothes of a woman who was not quick enough according to their liking. It was really degrading to see such a humiliation in public in a so called Western civilised society.

Sexual objectification

In that French society suddenly fashion designers when designing nice clothes for Muslim women are called to help the people to set up against the governement and against public order.
France’s women’s rights minister, Laurence Rossignol, accused the designers of high-fashion burqinis and hajib headscarve of encouraging the “imprisonment of women’s bodies.” Would she also accuse the high fashion places of France to encourage the Caucasian men to consider women as a sex object and lookism target or making women attractive to be the treasure of man and as such imprison them in Western capitalist society? Why suddenly fashion for Muslim women becomes ‘Sexual objectification‘ when it is not for Caucasian non-religious and Catholic people?

The objectification of women, is an important idea in feminist theory and psychological theories derived from feminism and feminist shall have a new task in coming up for the rights of Muslim women, who are now clearly deprived of their own free choice to cloth them selves in a way they find appropriate according to their faith.

Fear for God searching and  finding people

Mainly males protesting of the covered ladies bodies should have us wonder if those men do not have an other problem. And if they seriously think persons wearing such clothes could impose a danger to the community, they should come to give a better explanation. Lots of them are afraid of islamisation of their country and think that when more people show their devoutness more French people would be put to shame and shall come to consider to change their secular life and perhaps consider to come to look for God again.  For many this is clearly also a problem. Many are very much afraid that people shall start wondering about their faith and about the Truth. Many are really fearing that several people may come to know God better and come to see how the Catholic Church mislead them so much.

Forcing women to go for protection

By forcing the Muslim women to cloth in a different way than they want to do for their faith, the French push them in a corner and shall make certain groups stronger, because they shall support those women and help them. In this way we have already the Algerian businessman and political activist Rachid Nekkaz who previously  founded the organisation “Touche pas à ma constitution” (English: “Don’t touch my constitution”, a play on the slogan of the NGO SOS Racisme: Touche pas à mon pote), which pledged to pay the fine of any women convicted of wearing the burqa in public, now also has created a fund to pay for any fines incurred by women wearing burkinis, and has already helped several women by paying their €38 fine.

But also radical preachers shall get to pull the women to their site, showing how pervert modern society has become, and how much the State does everything to get people away from God. The latest measures forbidding to wear any religious symbol on public adds to the proof of the willing secularisation of the State.

At the same time the governement in France does everything to create more hate between its population and in Allah or God believing people.

Nekkaz called the burqini ban

“symptomatic of the French government’s efforts to eliminate Islam, bit by bit, from the constitution”,

adding that the French government

“wishes to battle against the visibility of Islam in France”. {Meet the man paying off burqini fines in France}

But believers in God should see the Nation wants to go even a step further. Clearly this week they have taken the step to make it very clear that they are prepared to start the battle against the visibility of any God loving group of people, being it Jews, Christians or Muslims.

Public suppression and rejection of religion

La Sophia Lara, who is currently a student reading Latin and Italian at University in Scotland, whilst she is a linguist at heart, her interests and passions also expand to ‘philosophical’ contemplations (used in the slightest of terms), travelling and making YouTube videos on her channel, reacts rightly on her blog

A France which prides itself for liberté, égalité, fraternité, has unfortunately fallen short in recent times, with more social division and socialprejudice arising within the country, due to the public suppression and rejection of religion; the consequent of which has led to violent eruptions. It is also precisely through the social persecution of the wider islamic community in such acts which aim to strip them of their beliefs, that it seems that the French government are validating individuals’ fears, rather than attempting to diffuse them. I personally believe that the government has made very little effort to try to remedy the severance, and have instead trumped the terrorist acts  as a way to divert the attention away from their own failed model of harmony. {France’s banning of the ‘Burqini’ is the rejection of its founding principles}

Suppression of dissent

In France we may notice that because of the fear for terrorist attacks and because of the fear of the unknown (the lack of knowledge of what really Islam is and should be) suppression of dissent has come to demand its place in that nation of liberty and so called freedom.

The non believers in a god or the God form the group which is more powerful than those who believe in the Almighty Divine Creator of heaven and earth, has taken advantage of the present situation to directly censor, persecute and oppress those believers in the God of gods (Allah).

Lots of French do not want to give an ear to the other victims of the terrorist attacks and do not want to know more about Islam and how certain groups are misusing that religion its name to create war and anger. They do not want to take time to consider all facts and to engage with and constructively respond to or accommodate the other party’s arguments or viewpoint.

Sticker art arguing that dissent is necessary for democracy.

For many French people, Muslims are now considered a dissent perceived as a threat, against whom action must be taken, and should be repressed plus considered as “dissidents” to get rid off.

In several blogs we could find such reactions blaming ‘all Muslims’ for the agony which came over France.

Those who do not want to believe a woman can decide herself to wear a burkini deny the right of that woman to decide for herself

In France there are lots of people who do not seem to believe a Muslim woman can be strong enough to decide for herself to wear what she wants. There are even some people, like a Dutch blogger, who want to believe because a female wants to cover her body she is giving a sign that when it would not be covered she is allowed to be raped and should be found guilty of doing so. That is turning it all the way around (wrongly). By not allowing those women to dress as they want, the state gives the signal that it does matter how people are dressed and how female beings give a signal to men if they are ready to be taken as wife or be subject to be used as something else.

Any woman should have the own right to decide what she wants to wear without any man giving a connotation to what she wears.

So called nothing to do with racism but for safety reasons

When the burkini ban has nothing to do with racism and anti Islam religion do we not to question

How can a piece of clothing be a threat?
How can Burkini decrease the level of security?
How can they decide what women should wear to the Beach?
How is this even a topic of discussion?! {Burkini a threat…}

Is the Moroccon, Tetouan, Swedish Sarah not right in posing

they think by forcing us to dress a certain way they are helping us… They are the ones oppressing muslim women by taking away their rights do be who they want to be and dress how they want to dress. {Burkini a threat…}

Why should any person who does not want to walk naked have not the right to cover her body up? Be her or him a Jew, Christian, Muslim, atheist or a pagan believer, who may have the right to decide what she or he has to wear?

The Swedish blogger writes

I’m so tired of the “what should muslim women wear” discussion. If my sisters don’t want to be half naked while swiming, they shouldn’t be forced. If my sisters want to cover up, they should be able to. And if my sisters want to be free, let them be free.

Stop trying to set us free from a decision we freely made!!
Stop trying to label us.
You do you, and we are going to do us and just keep being awesome.🙂{Burkini a threat…}

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21st century witch hunt

Texan Cartoonist Clay Jones wrote

Western Europe is proving we’re not alone in the United States with our racism, xenophobia, and mass stupidity. I’m still recovering from the hate rally I attended last week.

Human Rights groups asked France’s highest court to strike down the ban, and they agreed. The court ruled that the ban

“seriously, and clearly illegally, breached the fundamental freedoms to come and go, the freedom of beliefs and individual freedom.”

I’ll add to that with “yeah.”

and drew a very good cartoon, which you can find on his site: Claytoonz: burkini.

Maryana Kovalchuk hits the nail on the dot to think of a new witch hunt. She writes

An affront to women. A sign of intolerance towards cultural diversity and integration. A step to prejudice, discrimination, segregation and an insult to everyone who worked hard against them. {Universal concern: not naked enough}

and ads the very confronting nice picture.

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Caption from film ‘Rapture’, 1999, Shirin Neshat

We only can hope the French will find a solution to avoid further Islamic terrorist attacks and shall not try any more to take away the attention of the French public, from the real problem France does not seem to be able to manage.

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28 thoughts on “French showing to the whole world their fear and weakness

    • Sorry we were in the process of writing the article, but pushed a wrong button so that it got published to early. We do hope you shall come to read the article further when it is finished.

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    • Dear Rose Wolfe, after a break (when we wanted to save the message instead of publishing it) per accident making the draft public, you may now find the article on the internet.

      Hopefully you shall see that we oppose the violence and that we fully understand that people fear such terrorist attacks.

      But the public also should know that those radical fundamentalist ‘Muslims’ do lots of things which are against Islamic Law (raping and selling children, killing innocent people, burning the Quran -the Holy Book of Islam – , burning prayer houses – mosques – and many other atrocities). At no time should all Muslims be put on the same foot as they.

      We also see that the governement did not succeed to stop such terrorist acts and that politicians try to put the focus on those Muslims who are living in their country. They are now stigmatised as the bogeyman. Such actions, like banning the burkini, which is not a dangerous vestibule, draws the public attention away from the inability of the state to have everything in control.

      Several decisions of a few politicians showed also that they really do not know much about Islam and that they are unable to offer a solution to the threat of fundamentalist groups.

      What they have chosen for goes in against the freedom of thought, the freedom of clothing and takes away the dignity of women, who should be allowed to choose for themselves what they want to wear.

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  1. I’m the Dutch blogger you chose to quote. I’m honored. Unfortunately, you twisted my words, but that’s your decision. It probably benefits your blog better if you do. Thanks anyway.

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    • Perhaps we do not understand the way of thinking of the Dutch girl.

      She herself seems to be proud of coming “from a family of strong women”. We may wonder if she also thinks only Dutch people or her family have the power to be strong. Because why does she thinks Muslim women can not speak for themselves nor can decide what they want to wear?

      She utters her “concern about these burkinis” and comes to declare “our (Dutch) court, has ruled once that a young woman, who got raped after a night out, where the suspect had said that ‘she was asking for it, with that short skirt’, that the suspect was wrong about this. That no girl or woman is EVER ‘asking for it’, dressing the way she does.” She continues that to say that “This is the country I live in.” and confirms “It’s the law I love. Because it means I can dress however I want, knowing I still have the complete right to my own body, without anybody else having a say about it, nor access to it. By law and by culture.”

      Is it not great that we in our Western capitalist democratic world have a law who wants to protect women and agrees that they should have the right to wear whatever they want. But suddenly in these regions we find people who want to shun people for what they are wearing not to their likes. Suddenly it seems all right for men to humiliate women even to go so far to undress them or ask to undress themselves in public. Why does the Dutch girl agrees with such psychological rape?

      We wonder why she finds it all right others to decide what a woman is allowed to wear or not to wear, and that others, manly men, have the right to decided how much may be covered or how much has to be seen naked by men?

      We wonder why she herself as a woman also wants to limit that choice for others, and in this instance racist attitude, mainly for Muslim women, when she would not oppose to the nuns and priests in the south walking and sunbathing in their habit?

      Where does she get it from that a girl or lady who would love to have her body covered, like certain Muslim and Christian women (Brethren, Amish, Old Roman Catholics a.o.) by wearing a covering swimsuit or burkini is telling her: “‘that suspect in the court was right. It was the girls’s fault. She should not have worn a skirt that short. It exites men. That’s our fault’.”

      The burkini like any other covering clothing (look at how Madonna protects her skin in a similar way and was even more covered than certain Muslim women, but strangely enough did not get penalised or humiliated by having to undress or to have taken her clothing off)

      Why would their way of dressing go against all the things that Dutch girl is believing in? Strangely enough, or perhaps she was not clear in her words,she seems to contradict her belief, because first she writes a woman has to be free to dress herself likes she wants and now she wants to limit it for them herself.

      Why should a person who considers ‘men and women to be equal’ not to be allowed to cover her body up?

      Why we as Christians should not be allowed in the same way to protect ourselves and our children for the impact of sunrays on our skin? In the middle of the day we as sensible parents have our children running on the beach and they like us when going into the water, with covered bodies, to avoid damage by the sun and avoiding skincancer.

      We do not have any objection she wants to go naked on the beach or with a monokini or with a bikini or even with a more covering swimsuit, but why should we be limited in our choice of dress because she finds we and Muslim women can not choose for ourselves what to wear. What does give her the right to choose for us?

      Did any body forced her to wear a burqini? So why is she implying that somebody did that or would do that? The same way as we are not forcing her to go naked on the beach nobody forces her to wear a covering swimsuit.

      We like the Muslim women do not want to be called ‘whore’ like she also does not want to be called such a thing. She might think that in Muslim and certain Christian families, or in certain convents and organisations or denominations, that the children, women nuns and priests are forced to wear body covering garments. But that proofs that she has not enough knowledge about the choice those people are able to make themselves and of their strength that they have no reason at all to follow fashion or worldly manners. They probably are much stronger than many in this world, who have no religion or belong to a religious group but do not keep to their rules of that group (like in Catholicism) or behave differently among friends or in public than they would do by their parents or in their own house.

      For sure the nuns, priests nor the Muslim women who prefer to have their body covered do not want to force her or any body else to follow them or to have their believes. The Islamic women who are now already a victim of those fundamentalist terrorists who misuse the name of their religion she is making them again an other victim whilst she yourself does not want to “become a victim of that, because I myself do NOT choose to wear a burkini.” But none of them forces her to wear such a burkini, which they like, from one or an other designer, like she may buy swimwear from other fashion designers. Why would she have to be a victim not wearing a burqini? who would be making her into a victim?

      She writes “You cannot ask every woman if she’s wearing what she wears out of free will or because her religious or cultural views made her wear it. All you know is she wears it.”

      Does she consider that a good reason to prohibit everybody to wear such clothing? How about the other clothing? How does she know nobody is forcing certain girls to wear Jeans who look like they are outworn already for ages? How many girls are not forced by commercialisms and by their friends to wear certain brands of clothes?

      Is she really seriously thinking that only atheist, Protestant and Catholic Caucasians Western people can decide for themselves what to wear? Is she seriously thinking that the Western Caucasians who converted to the Islam and the Arabic and foreign Islamic women can not be strong enough to say what they want to wear?

      Would she or would she not like the burqini ban law? At the end of her article she gives the impression she would not want to have it a law. But for the wrong reasons, writing “because it would only make things worse. It wouldn’t help a thing, except from estranging these women even more from outer life.”

      With saying “I’d say make these women stronger.” she clearly show her disbelief in the power of the Muslim Woman, giving her readers and wanting others to belief that they should get to know that “there’s life outside the shell they’re being kept in”. But what shell do they have to live in? Why would believers in the One true God have to live in a prison or shell?

      Perhaps they can be much more free than her, by having such a strength that they do not bother what other may think of their outer appearance. Be sure many of them can be very strong women who have chosen from their own conscience mind, how they want to live their faith.

      If that faith does not agree with her faith or our faith, she should still give them the liberty to live their own life how they want to organise it, without bringing any damage to others.

      Those who seriously think those Muslim women their covered body brings damage to our society, according to our mind, have a serious problem in their head. and it even becomes worse if those objecting such covering would not object the covering by priests and nuns and would not impose the same rules to them.

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